MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[Ian_C]

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@gareb

what is the dynamics of crime for you?If you are really good in those dynamics,why cant you suggest any Dynamics of solutions?I suggest you do not under estimate those pips who are in favor of this killings.This is reality..I hope that one of this days you will also be a Victim of this robbery,snatching even Worse,caused by this criminals you think worth saving.

In that way,you will understand!

[FK]

Sa mga tulisan walay man gyuy ingon na dagko or gagmay halos pareho ra na sila ang naka lahi kay ang unsa ilang gi tulis . ANg mga natumba na kay mga confirmed notrious . Kadtong ni tulis ni Jed Sevilla ug sa babay sa banawa tumba na man gani .

Si Rey Torres bai natumba na?

kay mao man ni gi identify ni Jed Sevilla, og katong witness sa tulis sa may banilad.

[tolstoi]

wrong. it is as if we have already convicted these people to mete out a punishment. did they do the crime they were charged with? without trial, guilt or innocence can never be proven.

those who had been whacked were proven notorious criminals and they were even going in and out of jail before they were meted with death...

i bet most of the people agreeing with summary killings do not even understand the dynamics of crime.

oh pleazzz enlighten us on this man...

now it gets even more delicious. we do not like our garbage so we throw it to the neighbors.

actually, i am just giving a humane advise to them if they still value their miserable lives...but if they like to venture here for long then this garbages must prepare for there upcoming incinaration so that they will not stink anymore...

just as i thought. this is NOT A LONG TERM SOULTION to the problem of criminality.

so your LONG term solution is putting them in trial and convicting them, then in a year or two they will be out again and back to business??....or how bout whacking them nalang hinuon!

i sincerely hope you are not one of them.

i'll better be fooled by the mayor rather than be a victim of petty crimes...but one thing i know for sure is that mayor Osmena is a hard-headed man who does not want to fool around....

[koykoy]

I'm in... Wala nay human rights, human rights.... Samok-samok lang na murag welga-welga sa streets...

Pina old west bah... an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth

[PR0CESS0R]

For me, okey man sad ni nga strike sa mga criminal.
Human rights? Sulod - Gawas ra ang criminal sa prisohan, so dili na gyud na sila mahadlok mohimo pag usab kay mao na jud na ilang diskarte sa kinabuhi.

Ang napatay sa mga death squad pulos man sad notorious criminal.

HANGYO: Ayaw lang sad tawn apila ang mga walay labot kay looy kaayo.

[uzumaki]

dako ni og implications labi na sa peace an order ang koyaw lang kanang too much publicity ky bcn sakyan ni na isyu sa kuringog og otok, personally in ko ani cgoro it's about time na nga mo adopt ta og alternative solution......kay ngano? unang punto: ang five pillars sa atong justice system ky daghan kaayo og buslot, classic example tan-awa ragod ninyo ang ratio sa pulis ngare sa cebu dba kong wla ko masayop 1:1000 so murag hanap ma maintenar sa mga pulis ang kalinaw og kahapsay pun-an pa sa mga pulis iskalawag...daghan pod tag corrupt na mga official pwera bojag...

@Koykoy: boss ian mura diay sa movie ni antonio banderas hehehe...pila gani to boss kon magpa licensed og gun kanang permit to carry in one year?

[uzumaki]

death squad? hmmm ingon pa cla na kasagaran sa gipang bugto nila kay already noted criminals, unya kay ang kahibalo og nag archive sa mga records sa mga criminals kay duha rman: eithier naa sa NBI or PNP - so sa ato pa muarag cla kaha or kinsa kaha...ing...ing... just a thought.....

[lindsay]

mura gihapon wa effect ang death squad, tan awa dihay robbery sa banilad kahapon gipusil pa. wa gyud mahadlok ang mga robbers sa hunter squad, nigara pa noon in broad daylight. unahon gyud unta nila ug tumba nang dagko nga grupo kay mao man ni ang way kahadlok mopatay sa biktima. puslan man pamatyon kadto gyud nga dagko.

dugay naman na ang mga crimes in broad daylight... sa una pana miski wala pa ang death squad... remember dba ang executioners sa una kay ang mga NPA's man pro wla man cla nahadlok.. unsa na kaha karn...

tinood btw nga dugay na ang crimes on broad delight walay nakiglalis ana. ang ponto nako kay puslan man nga pamatyon kana gyud nga mga dagko ang unahon kay mao na ang way kahadlok mopatay sa biktima.

[celeron]

IMO, ok ra na naay death squad sa cebu... para limpyo (kunuhay) ang cebu from crimes

pareho didto sa davao ba na less or wala gyuy crimes na mahitabo...

kinahanglan na gyud na naay buhaton si osmena diri sa cebu kay mura hapit na ta mahimog manila na grabi na kaayo ug crime rates...

pero bilib gyud ko aning mga death squads kung naa silay mapatumba na mga govt. officials na taas ug ranggo na kurakot (BIR, Customs, LTO)... kay basin maayo lang na sila mo patay ug mga criminal na walay umoy...

[gareb]

I suggest you do not under estimate those pips who are in favor of this killings.This is reality..I hope that one of this days you will also be a Victim of this robbery,snatching even Worse,caused by this criminals you think worth saving.

you are suggesting that one needs be a victim of robbery or snatching to fully realize the need to summarily kill somebody? i am sorry but i find that rather short-sighted.

those who had been whacked were proven notorious criminals and they were even going in and out of jail before they were meted with death...

all of em? and you are suggesting that these 'notorious criminals' be summarily executed, just that, because they happen to be identified as such. no need to go to trial courts.

those of who who suggest summary excecution is the way, also better suggest that courts be abolished too. they serve no purpose whatsoever in this vision of a bloodlust society that you people seem to advocate.

actually, i am just giving a humane advise to them if they still value their miserable lives...but if they like to venture here for long then this garbages must prepare for there upcoming incinaration so that they will not stink anymore...

to be 'humane' is a complete contradiction of what you are advocating, friend. after you kill their ilk, and supposedly drive them away out of sheer fear that they'll be next in line in your 'incineration machine', you call driving them away to, in your own words, victimize other places and to 'start their ventures anew'.

i hope you realize that, by your own words, you are not solving the problem. you are only transplanting it into other places, and postponing your worst fears.

so your LONG term solution is putting them in trial and convicting them, then in a year or two they will be out again and back to business??....or how bout whacking them nalang hinuon!

well, yes. but not as simplistic as you put it. i agree with your distrust in the supposed 'rehabilitation' these felons get. and, mind you, it isnt exactly rehabilitation that they get inside. the problem of criminality, if you are aware, is not just a matter of crime and punishment. refer to my next post for this.

i'll better be fooled by the mayor rather than be a victim of petty crimes..

then you will have a lot to suffer for. maybe not in the immediate future, but rest assured, lions who have been trained to eat human flesh could sometime turn to the very hands that feed it.

and mind you..., only 'petty crimes?'