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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?


    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    wala man bay, pero akong impression ang pinakakusgan kay ang Judicial o ang Supreme Court kay kung tagaan ka ug TRO bisan ang presidente di kapalag..
    Di jud ka makapalag bisag presidente labi na ug Dili siya ang nag Appoint

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    its not because your elected your the highest. its what are written sa law.

    legislative- the one who makes the laws
    executive- the one who approves the law
    judicial- the one who interprets the law

    dba obvious when we just talk bahin sa law kinsa ang dapat matuman...

    now this DOG ay DOJ sec diay is by passing judiciary... she's not in the position to hold out any orders given sa supreme court.
    Ang Topic is Kinsay pinaka gamhanan sa atung nasud karun. Sakto lagi nga balance pero sa Libro na nga definition, if mu mata tah sa realidad sa atung nasud karun, Presidente pinaka gamhanan kay if naa siya sa katungdanan pwedi siya mag appoint ug mga Judge sa supreme court, pwedi siya mamalit ug mga Congressman ug Senador nga mubalhin sa iyang partido. Tan awa ra gud unsa nahitabo sa panahon ni GMA, di bah halos tanan niyang gusto matuman man jud.

    it only needs a very smart President para ma kontrol ang Legislative ug Judiciary branch sa Govt.

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    Mao jud diay ning Pinoy tawo2x ... mao ra ug matrabaho ka naay kay imong amo ... ug SC justices ka tawo ka sa Presidente ....

    Faetz aning nga situationa ... unya dili man tawo sa Presidente ang SC justices puerting gubota ....

    Ang sakto jud unta ma tawo2x ka or Dili barogan nimo ang sakto nga nahisulat sa balaod .... mao na ang supreme court ....

    Kining nahitabo karon sa DOJ ug SC kay MOB RULES naman ni ... wala naman ni nahituman sa tuwid na daan ...

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    coequal branches... but dis time executive ang nangusog ug maayo.... shame to the president... the president of the mindless...

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    malipay ta nga gi gabaan si GMA? o malipay ta nga wa xa gpalarga sa gawas kay ge babagan ni pNOY which may result to a constitutional crisis? zzz bloody politicians

    OnT: IMHO mas gamhanan ang presidente, and i dont need to explain WHY

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    Quote Originally Posted by wache View Post
    malipay ta nga gi gabaan si GMA? o malipay ta nga wa xa gpalarga sa gawas kay ge babagan ni pNOY which may result to a constitutional crisis? zzz bloody politicians

    OnT: IMHO mas gamhanan ang presidente, and i dont need to explain WHY
    yes, supreme court has the last say but only in papers. but the president has the teeths.. eg DOG ay... DOJ sec diay hehehe

    but this could lead to something unpleasant. lets just hope for the best here in cebu nga minimal ang damage sah atoh diri hehehe

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    by principle, the three branches of government is equal. but in reality, they aren't. one word: budget.

    the legislative might be the one to enact the annual budget, but it is the executive who disburses it through the different departments. this is the leverage that the president has against individual legislators. this tactic was used by GMA on the various impeachment proceedings against her.

    read:

    Power of the purse
    ... the power of the purse has been "effectively removed" from the legislature because of: 1. the power of the President to prescribe the limit on the budget and the prohibition on Congress to deploy resources according to its judgment; and 2. the power of the President to impound appropriations.

    In addition, the President is also vested with the power to line-veto specific items in the budget, the power to reallocate savings and the power to unilaterally contract loans. - "
    Wielding the budget

    However, in reality Congress’ power of the spending has been significantly diminished over the years.

    It is the executive branch that, in law and in practice, wields more power over the purse,” the paper further reads.

    The branch which holds more power over the purse can be determined through looking at the budget cycle. The budget cycle in the Philippines is divided into four stages: preparation, legislation, execution and accountability.

    • The budget preparation, which runs from May to July, involves the updating of macroeconomic targets and assumptions, formulating a budget policy and strategy under the supervision of the executive branch.
    • The second part of the process, budget legislation, belongs to Congress where the House of Representatives then the Senate and finally the two chambers at the bicameral committee level review the proposed budget, make adjustments and submit the GAA.
    • The executive branch, takes the lead once again for final review of the budget and its execution and appropriation.
    • Lastly, the Commission on Audit assumes the lead in budget accountability which is the last part of the budget cycle.


    Bottom line is the executive branch has more power over the purse and Congress.
    Congress’ ‘power of the purse’ overtaken by the Executive — PIDS

    However, a policy note by the Philippine Institute for Development Studies (PIDS) titled: “Who really holds the “power of the purse?” unveiled the reality about which branch of the government largely influences budget appropriations.

    Congress’ power of the purse has been significantly diminished. And in reality, it is the executive branch that, in law and in practice, wields more power over the purse,” the policy note read.

    Researchers from PIDS traced the roots why Congress’ power over budget appropriations was overtaken. It all boiled down to the issuance of presidential decrees during the Marcos regime.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    sa nahitabo kron,ambot nag libog nko kinsa juy gamhanan sa atong nasud.tsk tsk

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    Default Re: Kinsa man jud ang Gamhanan sa 3 ka division sa goberno sa pinas?

    the 3 branch are equal.... this time I can say that the freedom in our country is working... because both sides stands up on what they believe in..... its a matter of technical approach..... SC justices may have their say and DOJ also has its explanation to hold what SC will say... so they both using their power to do the right thing... for me I am happy seeing that they are using their brains and not just agree on something just because they are told to do so..... as long as both side doing it in the legal way...

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