MERGED: Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?

[godCode]

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ako mismo dili mo sugot. basin sigi nalang nag naay suicide bombings diri sa pinas...
nya subraan na pud ka immoral ang majority sa mga kano... dili ko ganahan mo katay na sa ato...

[nocram]

bad idea,keep it the way it is.antusa na lang nang inyong mga way ayo nga mga politico ninyo dha.ayaw na lang mo ug butar ug mga artista o basketbolista basin naa pay paglaum ang pilipinas.akong ihatag ninyo ang akong opinion kung nganong dili ko mosugot sa annexation??wa tay konrta ang america daghan,gusto ba ninyo nga mosamot ug ka daghan ang ga bomba dha??ug gusto ba ninyo maapil sa nuclear war? ug naka siguro mo nga ang pinas dili ma left out?? u know......discrimination?

[Spec-V]

ako mismo dili mo sugot. basin sigi nalang nag naay suicide bombings diri sa pinas...

Kay na-a bay suicide bombings sa Guam ug Puerto Rico

nya subraan na pud ka immoral ang majority sa mga kano... dili ko ganahan mo katay na sa ato...

You need to visit Holland, Spain (Ibiza) & other European Nations & also the U.S.A before you draw any conclusions!

[Spec-V]

bad idea,keep it the way it is.antusa na lang nang inyong mga way ayo nga mga politico ninyo dha.ayaw na lang mo ug butar ug mga artista o basketbolista basin naa pay paglaum ang pilipinas.akong ihatag ninyo ang akong opinion kung nganong dili ko mosugot sa annexation??wa tay konrta ang america daghan,gusto ba ninyo nga mosamot ug ka daghan ang ga bomba dha??ug gusto ba ninyo maapil sa nuclear war? ug naka siguro mo nga ang pinas dili ma left out?? u know......discrimination?

-LMAO-

[nolex]

yeah, whatever...

[vern]

nya subraan na pud ka immoral ang majority sa mga kano... dili ko ganahan mo katay na sa ato...

Immoral sa mga kano? hahaha, who are you kidding? ... I have never met any angels in the Philippines. Nigga pls.

oh cmon, Philippines will always be an American Interest our position is vital it is strategic in geo-politics, especially this time when China is growing.

All the Philippines is ... is a liability when China decides to flex it's muscles.

@lyslpr ... gwapo as always, sup man?

[kolz]

u have a better idea? because we're being practical here.

@aditti: i think its bill clinton, not george bush..

DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE ONLY SALVATION THIS NATION CAN HAVE IS TO ABANDON SHIP, ABOLISH OUR OWN NATIONALITY, AND DENOUNCE OUR OWN IDENTITY? SHAME ON YOU!

I have lived and worked in US, I have been to other countries and experienced other cultures, I am a Singaporean Permanent Resident, but I have never abandoned ship, I still send my hard earned money home, I'm still wishing for the day I'd be back in Cebu to vote for next year's elections. This is my Idea of helping the motherland, I am being practical. In no means I will denounce my citizenship, I still stand proud of who I am. I AM A FILIPINO BY BLOOD AND HEART.

The next Philippine revolution will be won NOT by heroes holding guns or people marching on the street, the next revolution will start from within, it will be won by the Filipinos changing hearts.

[kolz]

> patriotism and nationalism aside, unsa may gi buhat sa current pinoys with this freedom? nothing much... mao na karon unstable and crumbling ghapon kau ang phils.. daghan kau gubot ang politics... every few months mka dungog ka og rumor na mag coup nsad... debt is still an all time high so are poveryt, unemployment, etc. pinoys dont know how to run the philippines whether they be a z-grade movie star or a harvard or whever graduate (like arroyo who was supposedly a schoolmate of george bush in some ivy league uni)... the only way filipinos know how to run the philippines is to the ground

even tv stars know that ...ask dingdong dantes and jessa zaragosa who are now no longer filipino citizens...

"I beg you to accept that there is no people on earth who wouldn't prefer their own bad government to the good government of an alien power." - Mahatma Gandhi

"I prefer a government run like hell by Filipinos to a government run like heaven by Americans." - Manuel L. Quezon

To this day, there are Filipinos who, whenever something goes wrong, cackle and say, "Look, Quezon got his wish. We have a government run like hell!" As if it is something uniquely Quezonian -- and Filipino -- to want to run our own lives, badly as the case may be, rather than entrust it to the guidance of foreigners.

What Quezon and Gandhi said roughly a decade apart is the ESSENSE OF NATIONALISM: a people, a nation, must have the chance to make good and bad decisions, because there is simply no substitute for decisions made for one's self, by one's self. Government will not always be good, leaders will not always be the best, but in the end, a government and its leaders must be selected by the people and no one else. Love of country, nationalism, requires that a people have the freedom both to make mistakes and achieve great things. After all, the lives of individuals as well as nations require learning, and one cannot learn without, at times, doing wrong or making mistakes. Surely it is better to make one's own mistakes, to collectively endure errors of one's choosing, rather than undertake the same risks at the direction of a colonial power.

Nationalism is not my country, right or wrong, or everything for my countrymen at the expense of all aliens, but rather a more fundamental appreciation that one belongs to a people who have a country, and that the destiny of that country is in the hands of a people free to make errors but at the same time rectify their mistakes. It involves a sense of stewardship over a particular territory that geography and history have made the primary responsibility of no one else on earth but those who inhabit that territory.

When, as a child, I first asked what nationalism meant, I was simply told, "It means love of country." There are many kinds of love, as we all discover as we grow up, but fundamental to understanding love is that it requires a sense of self-worth and dignity. You cannot love and be loved, first of all, if you do not love yourself. And you cannot love properly if your love is the kind that is dependent merely on the approval of others, or measured by what you might believe to be the superior love of others. To love one's country is to love one's land and people with all their flaws, despite all their wrongs; and to maintain, at the same time, a conviction that one's love for nation and nationhood will result in a better, stronger country.


Last note :
- Arroyo is not George Bush classmate but Bill Clinton's
- Jessa Zaragosa ang Dingdong AVANZADO are not American Citizens, they're green card holders or permanent residents.

[kolz]

"My fellow citizens: there is one thought I want you always to bear in mind. And that is: that you are Filipinos. That the Philippines are your country, and the only country God has given you. That you must keep it for yourselves, for your children, and for your children's children, until the world is no more. You must live for it, and die for it, if necessary."

"Your country is a great country. It has a great past, and a great future. The Philippines of yesterday are consecrated by the sacrifices of lives and treasure of your patriots, martyrs, and soldiers. The Philippines of today are honored by the wholehearted devotion to its cause of unselfish and courageous statesmen. The Philippines of tomorrow will be the country of plenty, of happiness, and of freedom. A Philippines with her raised in the midst of the West Pacific, mistress of her own destiny, holding in her hand the torch of freedom and democracy. A republic of virtuous and righteous men and women all working together for a better world than the one we have at present." - Manuel L. Quezon

These are the basics we often overlook, but which are the requirements for true love of country: A sense of identity. A sense of belonging. A sense of responsibility and accountability to the past, to the present, and to the future. Most of all, a dream of a country that is no one's but our own, and for which we must always retain the fondest dreams to inspire us as we go about our daily lives.

[aditti]

u have a better idea? because we're being practical here.

@aditti: i think its bill clinton, not george bush..

ah..okay..im sure it was/is one of the us presidents man gud toh..read an article saying gloria has many simliarities with that said president... one of them was the university she graduated from na nka schoolmate/batchmate cla