MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[hulagway]

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put it this way: cost of war (2008 figures) The high cost of war in Mindanao - Video - GMA News Online - The go-to site for Filipinos everywhere - Latest Philippine News

• 39.20p / bala 50 caliber machine gun
• 8,515p /round 81 mm mortar
• 31,228p /bala 105 mm howitzer
• 214,000p / each of the 250 pound OVA bombs

now multiply that to x number of rounds used, x number of days. can we afford it?

kung kani lang ang hinugdan maypa ato nalang ng i abolished ang AFP, mogasto man gali ta para live fire sa crow valley....given nana na maka gasto jud ang government kung gubat na, pro kung mao lang ni ang pamaagi nga mg malinawon ngano dili man nato buhaton? pila na ka years ng peace talk wala jud gihapon result.ni daghan na hinoon ang mga leader..daghan na mga break away group..cgr lang gihapon ug peace talk.way gamit

[YellowSubmarine]

put it this way: cost of war (2008 figures) The high cost of war in Mindanao - Video - GMA News Online - The go-to site for Filipinos everywhere - Latest Philippine News

• 39.20p / bala 50 caliber machine gun
• 8,515p /round 81 mm mortar
• 31,228p /bala 105 mm howitzer
• 214,000p / each of the 250 pound OVA bombs

now multiply that to x number of rounds used, x number of days. can we afford it?

can we also calculate for the number of bullets, mortar and howitzer rounds, and bombs used multiplied by the number of skirmishes the AFP have had against these rebels since peace talk was "implemented"?

[JcBoY]

LISTEN to the RATIONAL minorities:
The Running Priest Fr. Robert Reyes on the Mindanao Conflict - YouTube

Let the Bangsamoro be given the chance to have their Substate; Let them choose their own leaders and govern themselves, let them have their own economic empowerment not just dependent on national government dole outs (which is NAA BA GYUD? or tua ra gihatag sa political dynasty who only usurped the legitimate beneficiaries).

[KlaytoN]

LISTEN to the RATIONAL minorities:
The Running Priest Fr. Robert Reyes on the Mindanao Conflict - YouTube

Let the Bangsamoro be given the chance to have their Substate; Let them choose their own leaders and govern themselves, let them have their own economic empowerment not just dependent on national government dole outs (which is NAA BA GYUD? or tua ra gihatag sa political dynasty who only usurped the legitimate beneficiaries).

Useless ra gihapon ang substate. Maski pila pa ka substate ang ihatag sa MILF, the bangsamoro people will never achieve their aspirations.. As what Adel Tamano said, "A substate solution is NOT a guarantee for peace and economic stability in mindanao."

Nindot na unta ang diskurso ni Robert Reyes until you reach 3:58 till the end of the video.. That's a BIG LIE, maybe out of the father's ignorance about mindanao. The reasoning that bangsamoro people lack representation in the government is a BIG LIE..

[hulagway]

peace talk? when sa ila own group(MILF) naay gubot..

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[JcBoY]

Useless ra gihapon ang substate. Maski pila pa ka substate ang ihatag sa MILF, the bangsamoro people will never achieve their aspirations.. As what Adel Tamano said, "A substate solution is NOT a guarantee for peace and economic stability in mindanao."

Depende sa imong concept and idea of the substate like if it is tailored-fit to what was formulated with the GPH and Moro National Liberation Front Final Peace Agreement of 1996. Then it is useless, but if the concept is like that of the US and that of Malaysian States, so be it.

Nindot na unta ang diskurso ni Robert Reyes until you reach 3:58 till the end of the video.. That's a BIG LIE, maybe out of the father's ignorance about mindanao. The reasoning that bangsamoro people lack representation in the government is a BIG LIE..

The keyword there is "EQUALITY". Are the Bangsamoro people well represented equally in the Philippine government with the right leaders or only the political dynasties who were just accomodated by the more corrupt leaders of the Philippines and unjustly usurped and obscured the REAL aspirations of the Bangsamoro People?

[jd_cellphone]

When You Were Young And Your Heart Was An Open Book
You Used To Say "Live And Let Live"

But If This Ever Changing World In Which We're Livin'
Makes You Give In And Cry

Say "Live And Let Die"

[YellowSubmarine]

lisod jud ni kay di jud na sila moundang hantod di nila makuha ila gusto

[rockrhyan1982]

They want a substate,then the whole mindanao,the whole pinas,or the whole world! Kapoy! Hutda na sila or pleteha padung malaysia!

[gareb]

kung kani lang ang hinugdan maypa ato nalang ng i abolished ang AFP, mogasto man gali ta para live fire sa crow valley....given nana na maka gasto jud ang government kung gubat na, pro kung mao lang ni ang pamaagi nga mg malinawon ngano dili man nato buhaton? pila na ka years ng peace talk wala jud gihapon result.ni daghan na hinoon ang mga leader..daghan na mga break away group..cgr lang gihapon ug peace talk.way gamit

we are talking about the proper allocation of resources. nobody will argue about the usefulness of the AFP in protecting the state (although one can argues on its methods), and nobody will argue that there are certain wars that we have to fight. the question now is, "is this war necessary?"

the effectiveness of the peace talks in not measured by how many years it has taken but on how the compromises and agreements are sincerely enforced. only those who cannot understand the depth of the historic problem of Mindanao can ever think that the issue can be resolved in a few months or years.

can we also calculate for the number of bullets, mortar and howitzer rounds, and bombs used multiplied by the number of skirmishes the AFP have had against these rebels since peace talk was "implemented"?

you can supply the figures, if you want. it would also be better if we also know how to classify these skirmishes; a violation of ceasefire agreements? one hand offering conciliation while the other is holding a dagger?