Task Force Alpha going after HID

[glenn_latras]

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ingna ang TFA ipa tuk2x tanan car manufacturer kay puro nka HID stock sa mga brand new cars..wa koy motor pro mag lagot ko anang TFA..dagko lng mga ulo ana

[mike's_4x4]

ingna ang TFA ipa tuk2x tanan car manufacturer kay puro nka HID stock sa mga brand new cars..wa koy motor pro mag lagot ko anang TFA..dagko lng mga ulo ana

Dli mana pwede boss. Kay if imu i compare ang HID na stock sa brand new na auto dako kaayu og difference sa ki taod sa gawas lang. Mostly stock kay 5000-6000k then ang outside na ki baligya kay 8000-12000k mao na bluish na ang color.

Hinoun ang TFA naa gyud kuwang pero pasalamat ko naa na cla kay dli napud makaya sa citom ang mga badlungun dri.

[ruji119]

mao btaw na mga citom mu tawag sila sa mga tambutsong saba nga open pipe.. bsag naay muffler open pipe ghapon pag ka lami doklon

[necrotic freak]

sukad2x wala man ko kasugat ug citom mo sita ug saba nga tambotso.

pero maayo nalang nang saba nga tambotso, di mana maka disrasya, kaysa aning glare sa illegal HID (way labot sa OEM / Stock sa uban suv/cars kay cool kaayo na) nga lagmit jud ka mamomo.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

[color="red"]actually boss i also find your first post offensive. i know you mods have all the right dri sa istorya. but please numdumi lang pod ang "respect" sa isig ka tao. you can always find other words pra dili offensive imong post yet with the same meaning. motorista pod ko boss, pero akong gitangtang akong hid Projector pra wala silay makuha nako incase apil ang hid projector. lastly boss, i believe uban nga motorista nga naka post dri is mas kablo pa kaysa mga TFA, like pila ang kelvin sa ilang suga, TFA usually pataka lang like naka 6k pero insist gyud nila nga 8k imong suga pra lang gyud ilang makuha.

Its not the point ug pila ka kelvin na or unsa na klase , the point is , its an AFTERMARKET HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE na HEADLIGTING that is ILLEGAL in PUBLIC ROADS and HIGHWAYS .

Wy would you find my post OFFENSIVE ? Dont you find the post of your fellow RIDERS dili pod OFFENSIVE ? I could care less of the TFA although I know a couple of them . I talked to them and guess what ? Wala mo nila gi tripingan , its ust tat na ana dmo sa LTO gi spoil mo being an agency who is very LENIENT .

it's easier said than done. wa nuon ko ka sulay ani pero kung kita kog check point puhon himoon ko pod ni, muhunong gyud pra lang mangutana about ani and matod pa sa akong suod nga amigo nga nasita tungod sa hid nya, iyang ning gihimo ang imong mga gi post, to make the story short wa silay mapakita pero pugson ka nilag pakuha sa imong hid pra ilang madala.

Aw , chances are mo hunong man gyud ka kay apil man ka sa i check point nila kung kumpleto ba ka s apapeles ug naa ba ka sa standards practicing safety etc . Bai dili ko mo tuo lage ani storya na walay mapakita kay naa na silay basean ngano ilaang gi buhat na . Dont you think ma priso na sila kung wla ana silay basehan ? Kana ilahang gi buhat IGWAY ROBBERY dako na if trip ra na nila . They dont want your HID to start with , madatu sila ana ? Do you even know who are the members of TFA ??

@ PINAKA GAHI ....

Ayaw na lang ug tuga tuga kay PWERTING HUMUKA nim intawn .

Basaha ang mga komento s aubang mga gahi KUNO sama nimo .

@ KOK3n ...

For the record , check the VIOLENT REACTIONS of our RESIDENT RIDERS here kung naa ba kay makita na EALTHY DISCUSSION . Makita nimo nuon mga paugat na tubag na abi nimo si kinsa unya diri ra kutob diay and tus my statement STORYA RA NI SILA KUTOB , BUHATA NINYO BY CONFRONTING THE TFA ONCE and FOR ALL .

@[b ]BOSSDE[/b] ....

what do you expect in a forum?read your first post boss. pede man seguro dili in ana na pamaagi kung mag post ka.seguro "nature" nana nimo. or should i say in born na batasan.unsa nalang kaha ka sa personal boss noh?

Actually nature jud na nako . STraight to the point , walay daghan che che buriche . Wy dont you back read it yourself and see it why I said that .

try ug backread boss. para malinawan ka. matubag na imong mga pangutana.

Enough is enough . NI abot na mo ug 23 pages and what did you get ? Nothing !! You dont know anything , di lang ninyo madawat na ILLEGAL ang HID and too sad kamo ang apektado . Karon kay di man ninyo madawat , ipabuhagay na ninyo sa ingtungdan . DIli sa LTO ha sa TFA kay kamo ga cge lang mo ug LTO na ang TFA wala gyud intawn na silay labot sa LTO . DI na sila mo report sa LTO .

para matubag pa jud imong pangutana, nag ka storya mi ni atty.Gador sa LTO licensing office. ug nangutana unsay nahitabo. ang iyang tubag. kung naa pa sa pangutok ang mga TFA. ok ba diay pa drivon bisag walay suga? asa ang mas delikado ana?

Of all si GADOR ? Adto pangutana ni RAUL AGUILOS aron iyawat na lang makakuha ka ug saktong tubag . Hehehehe do you even know him or it just so happened nagka storya lang mo ? Like I said ang LTO walay labot sa TFA . ONe good thing ngano ni exist ang TFA ? Kay ang LTO dakong INUTIL wen it comes to implementing TRAFFIC LAWS .

Balik ta sa logic nimo na " ok ba diay pa drivon bisag walay suga? asa ang mas delikado ana? " Mangutana ko nimo , as aman diay ang FACTORY HEADLIGHTS nimo ?? Ngano di man kadto ang gamiton ? UG wala to siya ? Wy drive sa gabie kung kabalo mo na delikado ? Wala nimo makita unsa ka lagpas ang kana na reasoning ??

usa ka oras kapin ko nakig lalis nila bout anang pa drivon na way suga. gipasa2x ko nila sa ilang head. utro way tubag. ganahan ka?

Lol ... asa lage to ang OEM lights nimo ? Ngano di man kadto ang gamiton nimo ?

ni post lang ko diri para mo share. ug wa ko ng saba2x na way unod. ok?

pareho lang mo anang usa diha, mura jud ug si kinsa. bisan asa na thread .expected jud in ana inyong mga post. nag pagarpar man sad gali mo diha na wa pa mo naka HID.

Actually dili ni pagarpar amoa kay LAW ABIDING CITIZEN man mi . Ikaw mangutana ko nimo , LEGAL ba ang HID to start with ??

@ RCM ....

UNya ang nahitabo diri puro na man maayong laki mga naapektuhan . UNsya man angay buhaton nato ana nila ??

The next time I see a RANT here , you guys know whats coming ahead of you . Kung mo insist gyud mo , let me know kung isa isahon nako ug post ngano PURO RAMO STORYA DIRI .

[ruji119]

uu. sakto sad ka... watch mode lang ta dri nga thread

mypa sa FB sa MMDA mu reply pa sa atu wa jud sakto reply...

[bahiista]

maung maulanung gabii sa tanan dri, sa insultador, maung tao, wa aung tao, abi nila maau sila, walay commento, mga gahi, mga humok, mga istambay, nagtrabaho, istudyante, gabuhi, nagpabuhi...hehehehe

Its not the point ug pila ka kelvin na or unsa na klase , the point is , its an AFTERMARKET HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE na HEADLIGTING that is ILLEGAL in PUBLIC ROADS and HIGHWAYS

if its illegal why naa man memo nga pwd gamiton ang hid as long as naay hi-low function? mao ning nag libog ning uban tao tungod kay dili consistent ng ilang baload gipadakagan.

kung ikaw straight to the point ka, chances are offensive gyud ka, just like me, pero wa nako na g apply dri sa furoms kay posts mani dri gud...wa kay makitang expression dri kung suka ba u wala ra ang tao nga nag post. ikaw ra nag ingon nga straight to the point ka, we i find you offensive, guilty?

Balik ta sa logic nimo na " ok ba diay pa drivon bisag walay suga? asa ang mas delikado ana? " Mangutana ko nimo , as aman diay ang FACTORY HEADLIGHTS nimo ?? Ngano di man kadto ang gamiton ? UG wala to siya ? Wy drive sa gabie kung kabalo mo na delikado ? Wala nimo makita unsa ka lagpas ang kana na reasoning ??

kablo ka sa sitwasyon ani? i don't think so...ang stock head light is wala gitaod kay matod pas nila ok na ang headlight as long as naa hi/low function which is mao naka taod sa motor that time. logic oi asa man?

Lol ... asa lage to ang OEM lights nimo ? Ngano di man kadto ang gamiton nimo ?
ni post lang ko diri para mo share. ug wa ko ng saba2x na way unod. ok?

gigamit na nya iyang stock head light tungod sa logic.. . wa ka ni post oi, namuyag kay mga istoyran nga ga post dri mga pra nimo gasabasaba ra...try to read sa uban thread, i bet mas way unod ilang topic didto.

The next time I see a RANT here , you guys know whats coming ahead of you . Kung mo insist gyud mo , let me know kung isa isahon nako ug post ngano PURO RAMO STORYA DIRI

unsa man diay suppose to be amo himoon? this istorya.net forum, more than just talk. hahay Internet forum such as istorya is discussion board on the Internet. break it down...am wast'n ma time

[ShinToy117]

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sakop diay gihapon sa LTO ang TFA...

Raul Aguilos he admitted that without the members of Task Force Alpha, the LTO-7 regional office may not become the number one in the highest number of apprehensions and collection of revenues.

-philstar.com


mao diay!

[bossde]

Of all si GADOR ? Adto pangutana ni RAUL AGUILOS aron iyawat na lang makakuha ka ug saktong tubag . Hehehehe do you even know him or it just so happened nagka storya lang mo ? Like I said ang LTO walay labot sa TFA . ONe good thing ngano ni exist ang TFA ? Kay ang LTO dakong INUTIL wen it comes to implementing TRAFFIC LAWS .

Actually dili ni pagarpar amoa kay LAW ABIDING CITIZEN man mi . Ikaw mangutana ko nimo , LEGAL ba ang HID to start with ??

wa ko nanginahanglang boss na mo atubang ko tanan taw sa LTO para matubag lang among mga pangutana. atleast naay usa ka official sa LTO nisanong sa akong pangutana.

daku diay inutil ang LTO? kung mao na. maypa wa nalang ng LTO. para mausa ug mahibaw an asa ang tuhoan. para dili maglibog ang tanan.so karon TFA nalang amo tuhoan. ok na?

motawag ka ug inutil sa usa ka ahensya sa atong gobyerno. kinsa ang mas gahi nato boss?

kung ako lang dili legal ang HID. as long as gibaligya na sa mga tindahan.




ok na boss, enough na seguro ang discussion.salamat sa time ug tubag nimo.

[juknojukno]

Ato ni klarohon tanan once and for all.

Summary sa kani na thread.
1) It's mentioned here that TFA is deputized, so they have the authority to apprehend traffic violators. And
2) HID is ILLEGAL according to other istoryans who posted here.


Question:
1) Kinsa nag deputized sa TFA? What Gov't agency? Surely there has to be someone or some gov't
body that is responsible for deputizing TFA to Implement and enforce RA4136 also known as "Land Transportation and Traffic Code."

2) Based from what and which LAW in the Philippines that this is clearly stated that is Illegal? Dili na lang ko mo butang diri sa mga Memorandums gikan sa LTO kay kabalo naman mo unsa sulod ato. For short this is not illegal as long as naay High and Low beam function.



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Here are some references to the Summary no.1


https://www.istorya.net/forums/automo...l#post11281513

Just a quick trivia lang ,mga DEPUTIZED ni sila ( TFA ) .

They dont report to LTO either .

They know more about TRAFFIC RULES than your average LTO personnel .

Kana tanan yawyaw ninyo diri , ipa buhagay na once ma pullover mo nila . Adto ninyo i contest aron realistic ba . Ari mo reklamo walay mahitabo na kalambuan man . Maski asa ka naay hambugiro gyud , naay hambugiro sa LTO , MALACANANG , CITI HALL , CITOM , CAGERS and I know for a fact , mas daghan ko nakita na HAMUGIRO mga RIDERS . DIli tanan but ubay ubay gyud so please spare the words specially ninyo mga motorista na mao ni sila this and tat kay labaw pa mo kiat sa dalan .

Enough is enough . NI abot na mo ug 23 pages and what did you get ? Nothing !! You dont know anything , di lang ninyo madawat na ILLEGAL ang HID and too sad kamo ang apektado . Karon kay di man ninyo madawat , ipabuhagay na ninyo sa ingtungdan . DIli sa LTO ha sa TFA kay kamo ga cge lang mo ug LTO na ang TFA wala gyud intawn na silay labot sa LTO . DI na sila mo report sa LTO .

To answer Question 1.

Radioman files graft raps vs. LTO officials and businessman - The Freeman » The Freeman Sections » Cebu News

Bacalan claimed that he received several complaints from his radio listeners about the alleged conflict of interest committed by the respondents. According to Bacalan, Osmeña heads the Task Force Alpha, a deputized group by LTO to arrest erring drivers.

Surely that clearly says who deputized TFA group and Who has authority above them.

More supporting articles stating who deputized TFA.

Loss of LTO agents cause drop in arrests - The Freeman » The Freeman Sections » Cebu News
Task Force Alpha, the most active group of LTO deputized agents stopped operating in Metro Cebu since February 2009 following Lomibao’s order.


And more and more supporting articles of who deputized TFA and who can revoke their deputized authority....

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/ceb...rest-motorists

Citom can only issue citation tickets to a motorist for violations of Cebu City traffic ordinances but can?t demand the surrender of a driver?s license, which is required for violation of national traffic laws.

Among those previously deputized are members of Task Force Alpha and Task Force Delta.

Even the Police men cannot demand to surrender your license if they are not deputized by LTO.

Provincial policemen to serve as deputized agents of LTO - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos


A list of all the names of policemen under CCPO will be given today to the LTO so they could be identified as LTO deputized agents with authority to issue TOPs to erring drivers. The processing of the papers as deputized agents would be completed in two days.

And heck there are some even fake deputized LTO Agents and these deputized agents are most of them member of the government agency. Mao diay naay TFA na isug pod kau kay uban ani nila military sguro, or pnp.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/ceb...uping-motorist
Raul Aguilos, LTO-7 regional director, warned motorists of fake deputized LTO agents who collect money from erring motorists.

Aguiloz said deputized LTO agents are members of the government agencies such as the Philippine National Police (PNP).

So it's not easy to be a deputized LTO Agent, naa gyud ni processes and recommendation gikan sa kahitasan.

Kani importante kau ni

Dili na basta2x lang ang mga deputized agents mag enforce bisan unsa orasa or bisan asa lugara. Dapat naay legal order to conduct checkpoint. So kung naay checkpoint sa TFA pangayo ug document sa TFA for a proof that naa ba sila Legal Order document

Provincial task force soon to be LTO deputized agents - The Freeman » The Freeman Sections » Cebu News
Merencillo said Provincial Treasurer Roy Salubre will endorse to the LTO main office their papers and LTO identification cards on Monday for them to become LTO deputized agents.



Byron wants LTO to recall deputized agents’ order - The Freeman » The Freeman Sections » Cebu News
Under the agreement, a person wishing to be a deputized agent must have a recommendation from the chief of police of his or her area to be forwarded to the LTO for approval.


It further stated that deputized agents would be allowed to be deputized only for a particular activity, and not just any time or any place


He cited the Task Force Alpha, another group of LTO deputized agents, which conducted a checkpoint near a mall at the north reclamation area. He said he saw them when he happened to pass by there so he questioned them on what authority they have to do such checkpoint.

When he asked for documents to prove they have the legal order to conduct the checkpoint, Byron said the “task force” failed to show any so he told them to pack up or else he would call the National Bureau of Investigation to arrest them.

So.... Only and only LTO has the authority to deputize or revoke a person to enforce RA4136.

NBI arrests deputized LTO agents for

These deputized agents are merely enforcing administrative laws within Republic Act 4136, the Traffic Code,� said Gador, who went to the NBI headquarters immediately after being informed of the apprehension.

At the NBI office, Gador assured the complainant that the LTO will check whatever infractions his deputized committed.




"Only LTO deputized agents can confiscate driver's licenses and apprehend motor vehicles violating provisions of Republic Act 4136. Even the police must be deputized before they can implement that law," LTO 7 Director Raul Aguilos said in a text message.




http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/2...29/police2.htm
The Land Transportation Office has deputized traffic enforcers of Mandaluyong City to bolster the campaign against erring private and public utility drivers.

Unya sa kato question about HID ngano nalibog mo na conflicting kau ang TFA ug LTO. Mao ni ang tubag, mao ni ang balaod.

R.A. 4136
http://www.lto.gov.ph/Issuances/RA4136.pdf

Section 62. No provincial board, city or municipal board or council shall enact or enforce any ordinance or resolution in conflict with the provisions of this Act, or prohibiting any deputy or agent of the Commission to enforce this Act within their respective territorial jurisdiction and the provisions of any charter to the contrary notwithstanding.

Section 63. Repeal of laws and ordinances. - Act Numbered Thirty-nine hundred ninety-two, as amended, and all laws, executive orders, ordinances, resolutions, regulations, or parts thereof in conflict with the provisions of this Act are repealed: Provided, however, That nothing contained in this Act shall be construed as limiting or superseding any provisions of the Public Service Act, as amended, with respect to the control by the Public Service Commission of motor vehicles operating as public service, nor shall any provision of this Act be construed as limiting or abridging the powers conferred upon and exercised by the Public Service Commission with regards to the control and supervision of the operation of such motor vehicles as public service.

For Short dili sila magbuot2x ug himo ug ilahang penalty or balaod sa pagdakop sa mga motorist.


And Lastly.............

Ang TFA is considered as public official......

kung arrogante ang TFA or gi abusaran ta kay pobre lagi, naa na sa balaod nga mo respeto sila sa public or nimo bisan unsa pa ka pobre or datu, And REQUIRED SILA mo hatag sila nimo ug supporting documents and information sa ila policies and procedures in a very clear and understandable language. Dili manginsulto or magbinuang sa public.

R.A. 6713


(c) Justness and sincerity. - Public officials and employees shall remain true to the people at all times. They must act with justness and sincerity and shall not discriminate against anyone, especially the poor and the underprivileged. They shall at all times respect the rights of others, and shall refrain from doing acts contrary to law, good morals, good customs, public policy, public order, public safety and public interest. They shall not dispense or extend undue favors on account of their office to their relatives whether by consanguinity or affinity except with respect to appointments of such relatives to positions considered strictly confidential or as members of their personal staff whose terms are coterminous with theirs.



(e) Responsiveness to the public. - Public officials and employees shall extend prompt, courteous, and adequate service to the public. Unless otherwise provided by law or when required by the public interest, public officials and employees shall provide information of their policies and procedures in clear and understandable language, ensure openness of information, public consultations and hearings whenever appropriate, encourage suggestions, simplify and systematize policy, rules and procedures, avoid red tape and develop an understanding and appreciation of the socio-economic conditions prevailing in the country, especially in the depressed rural and urban areas.

Hinaut unta nga klaro na nato tanan ang issue bahin sa HID,TFA ug motorist. Kani ako post dili ni pangigo or panginsulto sa mga na affected diri. Para ni sa public interest ug para ni nato ug para ni sa mga Misinformed public.

Daghang salamata ug mabuhay!

(mod's note: editing post to remove giant fonts. pm me if you have any problems.)