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  1. #71

    Default Re: AFP Basilan Clash- 13 Dead


    Mao na diha mo ingon ko aning taga Mindanao mga talawan .... daog daogon lang sa mga Muslim ... kita na sila ug Muslim gud mo kuyos dayon itlog .... mao ranang lugara diha nga ang Majority gi daog2x sa Minority .... Panokol mo diha oi ..... pasagdi nang goberno natong bayot kay wala nay hinongdan nga goberno ....

    Gubat ang solution diha ..... ang processo sa isa ka peaceful and organize nga lugar kay gubat ....

  2. #72

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    saon ning taga Mindanao pud natakdan man sa taga Luzon nga Showbiz kaau ang dating ... hilasan raba ko anang mga tawo did2 kay mag tagalog way angay paminawon ... obsess kaau na sila sa mga Tagalog ambot ug ngano .. unya nga mga Tagalog dili ganahan nila ... tan-awa ang mindanao way hinongdan nga lugar tungod ang taga mindanao wala nahigugma anang lugara tua sila nahigugma sa Luzon ... gusto na sila tanan mag artisa pud .....

  3. #73

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    Mura ma relate nako ang mga tawo sa mindanao sa mga tawo sa Pilipinas .. wala ta mahigugma aning atong nasod kay tua sa Canada ug Amerika atong huna2x ... mao rana sa taga Mindanao ang huna2x naa sa Luzon ....

  4. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    i stand corrected. not promoted but awarded diay. Lt Col Manny Paquiao. siya kahay makasulay ug armed encounter sa di ba kaha maka ihi sa karsones.

    i don't see why people really make this thing a big buzz (manny's promotion in the army reserve corps) army reserves raman sad na, they will not go into real combat not unless it's a general mobilization (e.g. gi invade ang pilipinas or something so big nga dili makaya sa current armed forces ang threat)...

    i doubt if they can even command a real battalion of reserve forces in their lifetime
    Last edited by bim27142; 10-20-2011 at 11:16 AM.

  5. #75

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    @ amingb, you surely don't know what you are whining about... no offense bro, but your comments don't make sense... so now you're hitting the people of mindanao and luzon have you ever lived in mindanao in the first place

  6. #76

    Default Re: AFP Basilan Clash- 13 Dead

    daghanag official oie, nways pay back time now, mop basilan

  7. #77

    Default Re: AFP Basilan Clash- 13 Dead

    balos balos bya ni

  8. #78

    Default Re: AFP Basilan Clash- 13 Dead

    pagpupugay sa ating mga magigiting na sundalo.

  9. #79

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    the captured soldiers were executed. grabeha oi.

    you cant trust these people.tsk tsk tsk

  10. #80
    Dia na... Naa nay isa sa mga samaran na ni-istorya:

    The soldiers were running out of magazines preloaded with bullets and yet Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) fighters kept on coming, said a member of the Army’s Special Forces who survived a nine-hour clash in Al-Barka, Basilan province.

    The encounter on Tuesday left 19 soldiers dead.

    Private First Class Arnel Balili said that while some 90 Moro rebels were advancing, he and 39 other members of the Special Forces had to spend time loading fresh bullets into empty magazines so they could return fire.

    The soldiers were overwhelmed. “We were only 40. There were more of them,” Balili, who was among the 11 wounded soldiers, said from a hospital bed in Zamboanga City.

    When the smoke cleared, 12 soldiers lay dead, among them, three junior officers.

    Twelve other soldiers were wounded, one of whom would later die in a hospital, and 10 more were initially declared missing but an MILF official said six of the missing soldiers were found dead yesterday.

    Command conference

    The encounter prompted President Benigno Aquino III to call for a command conference with the military and police.

    “I have called for a command conference on Friday when the secretary of national defense arrives to precisely tackle the issue,” the President said in a short statement.

    The command conference will be held in Camp Aguinaldo in Quezon City.

    In a statement, Lieutenant General Raymundo Ferrer, head of the Western Mindanao Command (Westmincom), confirmed that 19 soldiers were killed in the encounter that lasted from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m.

    Flags were flown at half-staff in Camp Aguinaldo and all other major military camps in honor of the slain soldiers.

    6 rebels killed

    Mohagher Iqbal, MILF spokesperson, gave a bigger number of military fatalities. Iqbal said the military lost 22 men and the MILF six members.

    In Camp Aquinaldo, the Army spokesperson, Colonel Antonio Parlade, said wounded soldiers reported that they saw their comrades captured alive after running out of ammunition.

    “They were captured and then killed. So they murdered the six,” Parlade said.

    He said one soldier remained missing and a wounded soldier was rescued by Scout Rangers.

    Iqbal said no soldier was being held hostage in Al-Barka.

    The bodies of the six soldiers had been retrieved by members of the Al-Barka police, he said.

    Trap

    Lieutenant Colonel Randolph Cabangbang, the spokesperson of Westmincom based in Zamboanga City, said the soldiers were sent to Al-Barka to check reports that armed men, including Dan Laksaw Asnawi, were holding kidnap victims.

    Asnawi was among those involved in the beheading of 14 Marines during a 2007 clash, also in Al-Barka. He was arrested in the aftermath of the beheading but escaped from the Basilan provincial jail in December 2009 with 30 other inmates.

    Cabangbang said the armed men indeed included Asnawi, who the MILF confirmed was an MILF commander under the 114th Base Command.

    Silent, empty road

    Balili said that while his group was on its way to Barangay Cambug at around 6 a.m. to check on the presence of armed men, the surroundings were eerily silent and the road was almost empty.

    He said his group met only four people along the way and had no idea that the armed men were just nearby. “We were almost surrounded by then,” he said.

    When the firing started, Balili said the soldiers were overwhelmed by the sheer number of the rebels. “We were not running out of bullets. But we had to load them into empty magazines to be able to continue firing,” he said.

    Rebels knew terrain

    Iqbal said only a platoon of MILF rebels fought the soldiers in Al-Barka. A platoon has about 30 men.

    He said the MILF recovered 22 firearms—four M-203 rifles, five machine guns and 13 M-16 rifles from the soldiers.

    Iqbal said the soldiers were not even outnumbered. “It so happened that our forces were better positioned and they knew the terrain,” he said.

    Cabangbang acknowledged that the soldiers had problems with the terrain. He also said that some of the soldiers sent to the area were still undergoing scuba training, which has nothing to do with land combat.

    Cabangbang said reinforcements were sent to the area to help the embattled Special Forces soldiers. The military also pounded the position of the rebels until late evening while the bodies of the slain soldiers remained uncollected from the encounter site.

    Asked why it took the military 18 hours to retrieve the bodies, Cabangbang said the area had to be secured first.

    He said Scout Rangers were then sent deeper into the area to retrieve the bodies. These had to be carried to a pickup area on foot.

    The bodies were then flown to Tabiawan in Isabela City before they were shipped to Zamboanga City.

    At about 10 a.m., the bodies of the soldiers were unloaded from a Navy boat at the Majini Pier inside the Naval Forces Westmin headquarters as the Army chief, Lieutenant General Arturo Ortiz, was having a closed-door meeting with Ferrer.

    Blame game

    Iqbal said the military should be faulted for what happened in Al-Barka.

    “It was a deliberate attack by the military and we are filing a protest-complaint before the International Monitoring Team and ceasefire committees against the military for truce violation,” he said.

    Iqbal said the Al-Barka encounter showed that the military had no regard for the peace process. He cited the October 15 clash in Payao, Zamboanga Sibugay, which he said was also prompted by a military attack.

    No intrusion

    In Al-Barka, the military knew it was assaulting an MILF camp and not just a temporary position of the MILF, Iqbal said.

    Cabangbang said the troops did not intrude on a rebel stronghold and were about 4 kilometers from it when they were fired upon by the rebels, prompting the troops to fight back.

    The military operation was supposed to be “strike and withdraw,” he said.

    In a statement, Ferrer said the military was not at fault.

    “It is apparent that the encounter took place outside of the MILF’s area of temporary stay,” he said.

    Ferrer said this belied the MILF statement that the military violated the ceasefire accord. On the contrary, he said the MILF should be held liable for what occurred on Tuesday.

    As of Wednesday, some 1,500 civilians had left their homes because of shelling by the military, said Basilan Vice Gov. Al Rasheed Sakalahul.

    The 11,000-strong MILF has waged a rebellion since 1978 for an independent Islamic state in Mindanao.

    Malaysian-brokered peace talks between the rebels and the Philippine government received a major boost in August when President Aquino met MILF chair Murad Ebrahim in Tokyo to bolster the negotiations.

    The rebels, however, rejected a government proposal for Muslim autonomy when talks resumed a few weeks later in Malaysia but they said they would continue with the talks.

    The rebellion has left about 150,000 people dead, with most of the deaths occurring in the 1970s when an all-out war raged.

    source
    Last edited by Sand Man; 10-20-2011 at 12:09 PM.

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