Popular Philippine communist rebel is dead

[porbidaman]

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wa diay namatay sa bullet attacked...

[Faeries]

but we r not ants right... if they r able to somehow create a community modeling communism with their less intellect why can't we? r we less capable than them?

can we realy not create a classless society or you just don't want to exlplore the idea because you belong to the upper class with much easier life compared to the lower? why must their be a lower class and a higher class. i thought we believe we r all equal.

I dont believe that we are all equal sir. That is why communism must fail. See there will always exist an elite class.

I believe in equal opportunity but not in equality. There will always be people who will be cut above rest.

There will always be those that are born innate leaders and there are those who are just to follow.

I dont belong in the upper class sir, but the last time I check the khmer rouge try a classless society by killing all the intellectuals and all those belonging in the upper class and did that bring any good to Cambodia?

No. It was worse that brain drain. It killed alot of valuable people.

[b1 huck]

wooo this dude is popular

[Saga]

I dont believe that we are all equal sir. That is why communism must fail. See there will always exist an elite class.

I believe in equal opportunity but not in equality. There will always be people who will be cut above rest.

There will always be those that are born innate leaders and there are those who are just to follow.

I dont belong in the upper class sir, but the last time I check the khmer rouge try a classless society by killing all the intellectuals and all those belonging in the upper class and did that bring any good to Cambodia?

No. It was worse that brain drain. It killed alot of valuable people.

wen i said class its not about skill or talent its more about ur relation to the production of goods and resources. its more on where you belong in the food chain.

i am not saying we r to kill the upper class to build a classless society. it is a process. basically man will attain a higher understanding about our individuality and about society that the notion of classes within society will be obsolete.

about equality, we are not talking about talent and skills once again but more on equality when it comes to our individual basic social needs. a talented man has the same basic social needs with an ordinary man thus thus there should be equality in their basic social needs.

i understand it is very hard to understand this idea because we are not use to it. a slave master in a slavery society ages ago will have a hard time swallowing the idea of democracy if we introduce it to him. he will reject it right away like what we are doing right now.

with our current culture and state of understanding about our individuality and society as a whole we can not have any communist type of society. so its not right to give example that communist failed because of this group tried it. there is mo communist society at present. there are communist groups who are hoping that someday this will be a reality but it does not mean they are communist. you may call them socialist or revolutionary but not communist.

[monroy]

^ You keep saying it's hard to understand communism cos you just can't accept that most people here reject it.

Why can't we be more like the ants is the wrong question. It's not why can't, but why would we want to be like ants? We are better than ants, rats, monkeys and pigs, that's why we should reject any political system that is based around acting like ants, rats, monkeys or pigs. The capitalist system was created by human beings because we have the intellectual capacity to understand accounting, finance, risk, investment and valuation. We should use our brains instead of following insects cos that would be nuts.

I can't think of anything else to say about this so I guess this will be my last post. But I gotta tell you man, your dream of the whole world becoming communist so that communism can finally be the best will never happen. In the last decade there have been no new commie countries, on the other hand there have been many new capitalist countries: China, Vietnam, Russia, East Germany, most of the ex-USSR satellite states. I'll leave it to you to figure out the trend

[JezzyCalm]

bantayan nasad si kinsa man tong iyang right hand..

[cebugdev]

wait..

-who says the Philippines has a class system? as far as i know we dont have the so called class system just like what Britain have,

but if you were refering to being rich or poor, then what countries doesnt have rich and poor people, how about to millionaires and extremely poor people? China? are you kiddng me?

Being rich or being poor is a state of mind not a class, Rich people started from something and/or from being nothing, they WORKED hard as an employee, they do business as an entrepreneur, they innovate as an inventor, they DREAM! they are successfull because of thier HARD work,
by the end of the day, their riches such land, house, cars, money are the result of thier efforts.
You dont have shortcut to success!, even those guys who won LOTTO and if they dont know how to handle their money fails.
being poor is not a hindrance

Rich and Poor are not class, Rich people can become poor when wrong decisions are made, Poor people will become rich if right decisions are made, Rich people will become richer with the right decisions...

Those so called "Middle class" people are people who lives in their monthly salary and still needs to realize the value of savings. They are afraid of investing and venturing into something, they are afraid of FAILURE!
If you read Entrepreneur magazine, more and more people are becoming millionaires each month! and they are getting younger and younger each year. These are the people who are brave and are making the right decisions in life instead of sitting around and complain.

[Eve's Apple Project]

may he rest in peace.

I am & will never be surprised why di nimahunong ilahang grupo. kasagaran mga bag-ong recruits are smart/idealistic people who sees the failure of our government. ang pinas ron tagilid, ang pordoy samot kapordoy. ang mga naa sa gobyerno, nagkadatu pag-ayo.. hangtud di mausab ang dagan sa atong gobyerno, di jud sila mawagtang. & i understand them. di ko pro but i clearly understand why...

P.S. even a well known foundation who builds houses for the poor sometimes has problems with gov't officials. some of them will ask for their "SHARES".. imagine, a foundation who only want's to help the poor, pangayo-an pa og bahin sa mga official?!..paita..

[Saga]

^ You keep saying it's hard to understand communism cos you just can't accept that most people here reject it.

Why can't we be more like the ants is the wrong question. It's not why can't, but why would we want to be like ants? We are better than ants, rats, monkeys and pigs, that's why we should reject any political system that is based around acting like ants, rats, monkeys or pigs. The capitalist system was created by human beings because we have the intellectual capacity to understand accounting, finance, risk, investment and valuation. We should use our brains instead of following insects cos that would be nuts.

I can't think of anything else to say about this so I guess this will be my last post. But I gotta tell you man, your dream of the whole world becoming communist so that communism can finally be the best will never happen. In the last decade there have been no new commie countries, on the other hand there have been many new capitalist countries: China, Vietnam, Russia, East Germany, most of the ex-USSR satellite states. I'll leave it to you to figure out the trend

one good example of how limited and conservative our understanding of ourselves.

isn't it ironic that scientists admire ants community because it worked well for them even with their limited intellect. and here we are, humanity, with almost limitless potential but yet we are moving into a downhill path of destruction.

[Faeries]

wen i said class its not about skill or talent its more about ur relation to the production of goods and resources. its more on where you belong in the food chain.

i am not saying we r to kill the upper class to build a classless society. it is a process. basically man will attain a higher understanding about our individuality and about society that the notion of classes within society will be obsolete.

about equality, we are not talking about talent and skills once again but more on equality when it comes to our individual basic social needs. a talented man has the same basic social needs with an ordinary man thus thus there should be equality in their basic social needs.

i understand it is very hard to understand this idea because we are not use to it. a slave master in a slavery society ages ago will have a hard time swallowing the idea of democracy if we introduce it to him. he will reject it right away like what we are doing right now.

with our current culture and state of understanding about our individuality and society as a whole we can not have any communist type of society. so its not right to give example that communist failed because of this group tried it. there is mo communist society at present. there are communist groups who are hoping that someday this will be a reality but it does not mean they are communist. you may call them socialist or revolutionary but not communist.

Sir I think you yourself do not understand that there is link between talent and skills and with what you should have.

Assuming its not about talent or skill but in relation to products, but is it not most of the time that those who has more talent and skill has more in relation to product?

Tell me if a farmer who just happen to have knack for planting, will reap twice than other farmer is he bound to share his fruits to other farmers? Will that not make the other farmers less industrious after all they will get the same share as that of the one who has more skills. Will it be fair for the former? Just assuming that they are indeed bound to share their fruits but is it not only but human nature that if you give more share than the others you are consider as "leader" already. Giving you more power and influence in how to run the community. Which deviate from the concept of power in communism that is vested in the people.


If we just want equality in basic social needs I dont think we need communism for that.

I do understand the idea of communism but personally I think its an ideology that lacks the understanding of human nature and the concept of power play. Even natures agree that power play and hierarchy are normal. The elephants have their matriarchs, the lions and apes their alpha males.

Those in the higher positions gets more even if we say that in relation to products there is equality can we say the same with regards to other factors such as influence, power?

Respect. Its either we respect those who do better than us or we envy them. Respect in any case already creates class.