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  1. #29191

    Cool Point of clarrification on Carbon Dioxide stuff....


    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    sir, dli ingon sa mang.ligis..

    pwede raman na walay co2 injection ang planted aquaria.. nag.low-tech ko sauna, so kana dli na impossible. walstad method ra ako g.gamit..

    wala mai liquid co2, ang pinakaduol sa liquid co2 kai kung mag.butang ka ug dry ice sa tubig.. kung imo pasabot flourish excell, kai murag sayop ta ana..
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    nag.sugod ni kai wala nasabtan akong g.suwat.. kai ang akong g.type kai co2 injection, dli ra co2..

    tuo ko mana ni na issue.. cause sa reply ni crissangelo nagka.sinabot na..

    ---------------------------



    try nato imo best friend master..

    surprise yourself, click it markykoi

    naa man daw, but in a certain atmospheric pressure..

    to be exact "Carbon dioxide has no liquid state at pressures below 5.1 'standard atmospheres (ATM)'."
    "at sea level, the standard atmospheric pressure is "1 atmosphere (ATM)."
    unless cguro naa ta sud sa hyperbaric chamber, makuha na nato ang 5.1 ATM..
    tinuod, pwede na sayop ko.. but other than just saying that i'm wrong.. palihug e.prove sa nga naay liquid co2 na bottled or available sa market na safe ug pwede gamiton sa planted aquarium..
    kung flourish excel ang higutan master, kai organic carbon na cya..
    nya, akong intensyon kai dli mangligis.. pero kung naay na insulto, aw pasensya na ninyo mga sir ug mam..
    salamat.
    Carbon Dioxide may be in solid, liquid and gas depending on the condition (atmospheric/mechanical/chemical) of the compound.

    So don't say nah wala'y liquid CO2.

    DRY ICE is a SOLID form CARBON DIOXIDE and if you put it on the water, it transforms into a gas form not a liquid thing....

    Technically, there is a LIQUID CO2... it is called "industry nomenclature R744 or R-744"...

    with rEgArds sah CARBON Plus... Carbon Plus provides organic carbon directly to aquatic plants, that is a substitution for a costly CO2 equipment. Technically, this is not a liquid CO2 or sumthing but the latter representing the content of a dissolved carbon dioxide.

    Last edited by hydrozam; 10-08-2011 at 01:59 PM. Reason: extracted offending word to maintain a harmonious thread....

  2. #29192

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    as i've said, i could be wrong and i stand corrected to the fact that there's a liquid co2..

    but saying that one is using a liquid co2 in his tank can be misleading to some..

    carbon plus uses organic carbon, same as excel.. (that is still not liquid co2)

    still there's no liquid co2 available on the market for plants. then again, i could be wrong.
    so, continue telling people you're dosing you're tanks with liquid co2 and continue being wrong.

    --
    here's what i don't understand.. i joined this thread to gather information and to give some.. but ever since i said something, i was treated with such hostility.. the reason? ignorance on my part and to the one's who responded. my intention was to give the other people who didn't have the budget for a diy or a pressurized or even the so-called liquid co2 the idea that even without it he can still have a planted tank.. it is such a warm welcome.. and for the lack of better words, good luck!
    Last edited by dreamt_01; 10-08-2011 at 02:30 PM. Reason: added words.

  3. #29193

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    as i've said, i could be wrong and i stand corrected to the fact that there's a liquid co2..

    but saying that one is using a liquid co2 in his tank can be misleading to some..

    carbon plus uses organic carbon, same as excel.. (that is still not liquid co2)

    still there's no liquid co2 available on the market for plants. then again, i could be wrong.
    so, continue telling people you're dosing you're tanks with liquid co2 and continue being wrong.

    --
    here's what i don't understand.. i joined this thread to gather information and to give some.. but ever since i said something, i was treated with such hostility.. the reason? ignorance on my part and to the one's who responded. my intention was to give the other people who didn't have the budget for a diy or a pressurized or even the so-called liquid co2 the idea that even without it he can still have a planted tank.. it is such a warm welcome.. and for the lack of better words, good luck!
    one reason sir kay presko kaau ka mo post......dili sad sa ingong ignorance sa imo part or reply sa uban..just watch your post na dili sa kaau presko og dating bah...unsa man gud nay basihan kung magpostx2 ka sa forum na respitohon ba ka or dili...labi nah bag-o rakag sulpot sa usa ka thread....

    mura kag algae na nitunga og kalit sa tank nah simang kaau na makairita sa mata...


    Thanks...
    Last edited by galactic armada; 10-08-2011 at 03:56 PM.

  4. #29194

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    Quote Originally Posted by crissangelo View Post
    wow na kit an nako akoa idol sa tv XD gwapo keo !!! ... to all patience is a virtue jud!! ^_^
    yabag bayota..nyahahahha...

  5. #29195

    Cool tumpak....

    Quote Originally Posted by galactic armada View Post
    one reason sir kay presko kaau ka mo post......dili sad sa ingong ignorance sa imo part or reply sa uban..just watch your post na dili sa kaau presko og dating bah...unsa man gud nay basihan kung magpostx2 ka sa forum na respitohon ba ka or dili...labi nah bag-o rakag sulpot sa usa ka thread....

    mura kag algae na nitunga og kalit sa tank nah simang kaau na makairita sa mata...

    Thanks...
    butangan nATO ug CARBON Plus mAsTer pArA mA.wALA AnG ALGAE... hAhAhA....

  6. #29196

    Cool Liquid Carbon....

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    as i've said, i could be wrong and i stand corrected to the fact that there's a liquid co2..

    but saying that one is using a liquid co2 in his tank can be misleading to some..

    carbon plus uses organic carbon, same as excel.. (that is still not liquid co2)

    still there's no liquid co2 available on the market for plants. then again, i could be wrong.
    so, continue telling people you're dosing you're tanks with liquid co2 and continue being wrong.

    --
    here's what i don't understand.. i joined this thread to gather information and to give some.. but ever since i said something, i was treated with such hostility.. the reason? ignorance on my part and to the one's who responded. my intention was to give the other people who didn't have the budget for a diy or a pressurized or even the so-called liquid co2 the idea that even without it he can still have a planted tank.. it is such a warm welcome.. and for the lack of better words, good luck!
    Photosynthesis is a chemical process that converts carbon dioxide into organic compounds, especially sugars, using the energy from sunlight.[1] Photosynthesis occurs in plants, algae, and many species of bacteria, but not in archaea. In plants, algae, and cyanobacteria, photosynthesis uses carbon dioxide and water, releasing oxygen as a waste product. (source: google)

    So the formula wud be:
    CO2 + Light = Photosynthesis
    Oxygen (O2) is a waste product of this process... Remember: OXYGEN!...

    Take note: Azoo Carbon Plus (Organic Carbon)...
    mEaning the Carbon (C) compound is only present, excluding the Oxygen (O2) compound which is a only a waste product during photosynthesis.... So Azoo Carbon Plus/Excel is a good CO2 substitution source.... In fact, aquatic plants absorbs it quickly because it doesn't have a waste by-product compound (Oxygen).... Get's mUh...


    YES... we/i will continUe telling peOpLe in hErE that i persOnaLLy was dOsing my TANKS wd LIQUID CO2 b'cUz that's our LAY-MAN's Term of telling it, pArA dALi rAh zd mA.ExpLAin nAmU UnSa nAnG Carbon Plus....

    kAy sah akO pah c'La ExpLainAn pArehA sah ibAbAw...
    SO TROUBLE.SOME...


    GUYS... dApAT di UnTa atong E.ingon kAy LIQUID CARBON...
    This is sUppOsEdLy d' RIGHT TERM... pErO mU.ExpLain nAh zd kAg UnsA nAng CARBON... hAy'Z....
    but mAo lage nA.AndAn nAmAn nATo which is mOsTLy LikELy AccEpTAbLe rAh zd bayA...
    sAmE rAh gd nEh sAh "papalita ko'g Colgate nAng, kanAng Pepsodent lang kAy barato" or
    "papalita ko'g COKE nang kanang Sarsi lng kay mura'g tambal ug lami"

  7. #29197

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    as i've said, i could be wrong and i stand corrected to the fact that there's a liquid co2..

    but saying that one is using a liquid co2 in his tank can be misleading to some..

    carbon plus uses organic carbon, same as excel.. (that is still not liquid co2)

    still there's no liquid co2 available on the market for plants. then again, i could be wrong.
    so, continue telling people you're dosing you're tanks with liquid co2 and continue being wrong.

    --
    here's what i don't understand.. i joined this thread to gather information and to give some.. but ever since i said something, i was treated with such hostility.. the reason? ignorance on my part and to the one's who responded. my intention was to give the other people who didn't have the budget for a diy or a pressurized or even the so-called liquid co2 the idea that even without it he can still have a planted tank.. it is such a warm welcome.. and for the lack of better words, good luck!
    mikerocks... is that u?

  8. #29198

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    mao na mo tunga ug kalit out of nowhere nga wala kahibaw sa dagan sa forum.. mao ra gihapon mag cge ta ug balik2 ug tambag anang DIY's not just 5 times pero mao ra gihapon adto ra gihapon padung sa industrial or liquids..why?? tungod after nila mag DIY mag cge ra gihapon na balik2 ug yawyaw sa same problems nga nangamatay ang tanom, dili healthy and blah blah blah.. now naay ni abot nga hero nga gi samot pa kutaw sa utok sa newbies...so balik napud ta from the start?? OK RA UNTA KUNG ANG MGA NEWBIES karon PAREHAS SA MGA NEWBIES SAUNA NGA MO DIG jud SA OLDER POSTS SA THREAD..

  9. #29199

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamt_01 View Post
    nag.sugod ni kai wala nasabtan akong g.suwat.. kai ang akong g.type kai co2 injection, dli ra co2..




    tuo ko mana ni na issue.. cause sa reply ni crissangelo nagka.sinabot na..



    ---------------------------



    try nato imo best friend master..

    surprise yourself, click it markykoi

    naa man daw, but in a certain atmospheric pressure..

    to be exact "Carbon dioxide has no liquid state at pressures below 5.1 'standard atmospheres (ATM)'."

    "at sea level, the standard atmospheric pressure is "1 atmosphere (ATM)."

    unless cguro naa ta sud sa hyperbaric chamber, makuha na nato ang 5.1 ATM..

    tinuod, pwede na sayop ko.. but other than just saying that i'm wrong.. palihug e.prove sa nga naay liquid co2 na bottled or available sa market na safe ug pwede gamiton sa planted aquarium..

    kung flourish excel ang higutan master, kai organic carbon na cya..

    nya, akong intensyon kai dli mangligis.. pero kung naay na insulto, aw pasensya na ninyo mga sir ug mam..

    salamat.

    @dreamt_01 ^_^

    u need to understand that different forums has different personality and language which will grow eventually as it matures ^_^

    we always us the phrase " search google" because the best step to do is research ^_^ ... dont take it negatively .... ace cant handle all questions given by the newbies who want to venture into the hobby ... thats why we always refer them to google ^_^ ...

    and markykoi was being polite to you ... he even greeted you good evening and thanked you ... be open to all opinions ... ^_^

    and last its not our fault nga wala na sabtan nga co2 injection imu pasabot ... kay first of all wala nimu sabti nga "CO2 RA" ako pasabot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. #29200

    Default Re: Aquatic Cebu Enthusiasts (ACE)

    gudpm all agi agi
    Last edited by Freddy Krueger; 11-29-2012 at 04:55 PM.

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