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  1. #31

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'


    i think being in BPO is better than being a bum. if this feeds their family who are we to say that it's a mistake? siguro before ta musulti na dapat dili ta mg call center, dapat siguro himo sah ta ug trabaho nga nindot unya maayo ang pay, kay if i were to choose pud, adto ko sa daku ang makuha. well, in my case ngCC ko paggrad nko then i resigned after a year to pursue my IT career, but daku jd ang sweldo sa CC but since i love to be a programmer, i sacrificed jd - not anymore tho!

  2. #32

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    asa ka adto sa taiwan? dubai? saudi? kanang ilang sweldo did2 pwedi ra na makita diri sa pinas ang sweldo nila didto plus dili pa ka ma layo sa imong pamilya. nindot unta if adto ka sa canada or sa europe kay dako2x og sweldo did2 pero perti ka lisod ang pag sulod didto
    bro if it worked for korea it will work for us. kana man gud ang minset ninyo na magfreeload ug puyo sa inyong ginikanan mao na usa ka hinungdan walay ni angat na kasagaran pinoy. undangi nana inyong pagka mama's/papa's boy/girl ninyo. get your bum ass out of your parents' house and get your own place!

    kabalo ba ka if gikan ka taiwan respeto mga tao nimo? I have yet to meet a filipino engineer who didn't command respect if gikan sila taiwan. karon dako na sweldo.

    mga kaila pud nako naa sa dubai/saudi. no complaints. although saudi gyud hinuon medyo gamay2x sweldo BUT bigger than pinas. i don't know where you got the idea same ra sa pinas.

  3. #33

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    dili man pod na mag palabi og pa dako sa sweldo ang mga companiya kay mag depende man gyud na sa demand. if i pugos nimo nang dako og sweldo, resulta ana is manaktak na sila og other employees. parehas bitaw sa atong mga malls. barato kaayo og sweldo ang mga taw diha sa sm pero daghan man pod kaayo sila. ang cashier naay assitant nga bager. sugot kaha nang sales lady diha sa sm supermarket nga pa dak an sila og sweldo pero sila ra ang mo punch then mo putos unya mo hatod sa groceries padung sa parking lot? kung adto ka sa developed countries, dili ka kita anang mga daghan employees sa mall kay dili na ka afford ang employers mo hire og daghan employees kay dagko kaayo ilang sweldo.
    ai sos. huna huna ra na nila. buot himo huna hunaon kaafford na sila ana tanan maskin patas-an ang sweldo. ang tuyo ra gyud ana nila is dako kwarta mobalik. as if have said: GREED. Every economist, politician and business student know this. Naa na ang kwarta nila bai. gusto lang sila ang pundo adto sa ila. (our only sin is being the rats in the rat race) maskin iminus pa na nimo ang utang/overhead/salaries anang sa bank deposit nila bai naa pa gihapon milyones nahabilin ana.

    you expect me to believe with their mansions and fancy cars KULANG ila kwarta pang hire ug addtional tao? Basin imo pasabot balansi sa ferrari ug sa SUV, bro?

    Sama bitaw sa giingon ni arroyo during the oil price increase "MINIMIZE GREED". (i know it's hypocritical but you get the point)

  4. #34

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    It's understandable baya na daghan jud ganahan ug call center. It's easy to get into unya dako ang basic salary. But if ang fresh grad naa jud abilidad gamay in his field, mas maayo unta piliun nya ang low-paying job na in line sa iya kurso kaysa call center diretso. Sacrifice lang gamay sa sugod ba, pang-experience lang. Later on, mu-pay off ra man na when more employers would look for your experienced-honed expertise.

    I think ang point sa kadtong solar engineer is that daghay talent ug skills na na sayang kay ang mga fresh grad nagpadala sa easy (easy to enter at least) salary na gina-offer sa mga CCs, instead of pursuing their respective fields bahalag sugod sa pinaka-ubos na position.
    Last edited by noel_llapa; 09-05-2011 at 12:35 PM.

  5. #35

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    Ikaw ray nag post ug article kabahin sa dili maayong epekto sa call center kabahin sa pamatasan ug panghuna-huna sa mga tawo nag hisgot man hinoun ka ug dollar dollar.
    Aw, if it gives you peace EUROs nalang? Basta ang punto nako if asa dako ug buying power imong income adto ta. wla man namugos nato (although not directly) to work here. we DO have other options. huna huna ra gyud na nato as pinoys to think that we are hopeless. angat pinoy oi! maskin asa ta success gyud!

    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    Working in a call center is better than working abroad. It is my opinion you have your own view which is opposite. I keep mine, you keep yours unless you show me concrete, documented, reviewed , precise and statistically proven evidence.
    i once thought like you that staying here was a good idea but then i understood the concept of OFWs and also read how south korea managed to put their country on the map by proper handling of ofw income (dollars and other currencies) to invest in their own country. it's a tedious and time consuming process but they are a living example of what you can do if your citizens work together. singapore is also another example of how well placed investments can put a country (even with 0 natural resources) on top. take note that tuldok ra gani na ang SG sa mapa, yet it is one of the greatest economic hubs in asia and one of the greatest sea ports in the world.

    read the history of both countries and you get your "concrete, documented, reviewed , precise and statistically proven evidence".

    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    btw how did you add v2.0 to your name?
    you have to piss off some people in high places in istorya.

  6. #36

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    ^^ Sakto jud kaayo ni Brad. As a real estate broker, lahi ra jud kung mag-abroad ka, kay mga 50% tingale sa akong clients, gikan abroad. Aside sa mga foreigners ug mga established na businessmen, mga OFWs ang pinaka-abtik mupalit ug mudevelop ug mga properties. Usually mga employed professionals working locally would buy residential houses and lots, pero kung mga henictaria na gani na raw lands, palaban jud ta sa mga OFWs. hehe ^_^

  7. #37

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    then can you tell us what option does these people who works at a call center have ?? people can easily make opinions but they don't even try to balance out everything. the call center industry has helped our country in a lot of ways, how can it deteriorate the society, all i see is our society has changed and evolved to adapt to the new lifestyle of call center agents, coz let's face it, most of our workforce right now are in call centers.
    si noel_llapa naka explain na ug maayong solution para ana. i share his advice. work for your respective field gain experience. be patient lang gyud.

    tried and proven na gyud na na kung unsa pa laing course diha, engineer, doctor or nurse, basta motake off imo career mangluspad ra na ang sweldo sa CC kay sa doc or engr or nurse.

    and you ask how it can deteriorate society? it's just the opposite of the above two paragraphs:

    nagdali para makakwarta. walay pasensya. you cultivate impulsive and impatient individuals which equates just as the same as immature and irresponsible professionals.

    walay pasensya kay dili kasulod sa curso na gi skwelahan waldas lang kwarta sa pang eskwela kai nag CC nalang.

    kung walay doctor, engineer, teacher, nurse who will do those jobs? you tell me dili ta modeteriorate ana? suwayi kuno kung mabuhi ang pinas wala nang mga trabahoa. you may want to face the "convenience" of having a CC as an easy access to a job but does a country thrive on one skill alone? don't forget also that there is still such a thing as "saturation". when that happens, the salaries go DOWN and NOT UP. that's the negative effects if you cluster your people into one skillset - the proverbial all eggs in one basket. Remember, what happened in the 90s when too many people took up nursing? A few months ago POEA advised nurses to "switch course". Saturated na ang job market. We should learn from that mistake unta. dili kanang naai sayop sigehon nag sayop.

    and seriously, do you really want to evolve into the superficial and materialistic culture of call centers? we as a third world nation whose frugal lifestyle has enabled use to survive a global recession? i can think of a dozen things that makes it bad for us Filipinos.
    Last edited by tokidoki_v2.0; 09-05-2011 at 01:06 PM.

  8. #38

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    asa ka adto sa taiwan? dubai? saudi? kanang ilang sweldo did2 pwedi ra na makita diri sa pinas ang sweldo nila didto plus dili pa ka ma layo sa imong pamilya. nindot unta if adto ka sa canada or sa europe kay dako2x og sweldo did2 pero perti ka lisod ang pag sulod didto
    bro if it worked for korea it will work for us. kana man gud ang minset ninyo na magfreeload ug puyo sa inyong ginikanan mao na usa ka hinungdan walay ni angat na kasagaran pinoy. undangi nana inyong pagka mama's/papa's boy/girl ninyo. get your bum ass out of your parents' house and get your own place!

    kabalo ba ka if gikan ka taiwan respeto mga tao nimo? I have yet to meet a filipino engineer who didn't command respect if gikan sila taiwan. karon dako na sweldo.

    mga kaila pud nako naa sa dubai/saudi. no complaints. although saudi gyud hinuon medyo gamay2x sweldo BUT bigger than pinas. i don't know where you got the idea same ra sa pinas.

  9. #39

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    ang south korea ug singapore government nindot ug performance mao nang na ingon ang ilahang nasud
    sa ato a .. naa man gali government official nga walai agi pero sikat ... mao nanang maingkamot nalang ta kai lisod kung mag cge ta salig sa gobyerno

    mao nang daghan OFW nga maski dili related sa gi eskwelahan ug decades na sa ila position ok ra gihapon basta maayo lang ang sweldo
    sauna kadto nag apply2x pako sa mga agency.. dili tanan dagko ug offer... labi na sa middle east
    kasagaran ato 400USD - 700USD

  10. #40

    Default Re: Solar engineer tells youth: Don’t repeat India’s BPO ‘mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by noel_llapa View Post
    ^^ Sakto jud kaayo ni Brad. As a real estate broker, lahi ra jud kung mag-abroad ka, kay mga 50% tingale sa akong clients, gikan abroad. Aside sa mga foreigners ug mga established na businessmen, mga OFWs ang pinaka-abtik mupalit ug mudevelop ug mga properties. Usually mga employed professionals working locally would buy residential houses and lots, pero kung mga henictaria na gani na raw lands, palaban jud ta sa mga OFWs. hehe ^_^
    yep. actually wala gyud koi mga alam ani mga butanga until last year. i keep reading about "invest in cebu", "invest in davao" or unsa pa investment diha. i got curious about what they meant. ang una ka example ana was real estate.

    positive effect na siya sa bringing in foreign currencies. like you said kasagaran imo clients OFWs. kanang kwartaha gigamit invest for housing.

    ing-ani man gud na mga bro para sa mga wala kasabot:
    1) you spend your money you earned elsewhere in the phils
    2) with that money it can be spent on housing.
    3) you provide jobs for rank and file employees.
    4) you provide income for developers, which in turn provide our skilled workers like architects, engineers and *cough* *cough* gov't officials.
    5) with that money, the developer puts into a bank while not in use
    6) the bank RE-INVESTS that money back into the market. and kay tungod forex man gud na they have dollar or euro reserves
    7) which then gives them investing power for imports

    That's just one example lang ha. real estate pa lang na. you can do this approach:
    1) balik ka pinas. sugod negosyo
    2) imo negosyo nanghatag ug trabaho ug mga pila ka tao.
    3) imo taxes nanghatag ug income sa gov't (cough cough)
    4) the gov't (if honest unta) uses that money to import or develop the country.

    oh, the magic of this is that the people you paid for their salaries eventually need to spend their salaries on necessities. the money circulates. as long as money is in motion we will survive. magdungan ta tinihik patay ang pinas i guarantee you.

    daghan gyud posibilidad mga bro. don't look down on OFWs as an exile or a punishment. they bring us the cash.

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