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  1. #81

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship


    ka kafoy gyud aning mga "copy paste" ui

  2. #82

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship

    my point there is pag launch sa pinas ug bag,ong barko.. china does it also.

    but compared to the 2. mura rag lifeboat ang ge launch sa Philippines.

    Pero ge lang tayaon man guro ng barko sa PH, bcin maka tetanus na sa kontra.

  3. #83

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship

    We'll they're both refurbished ships... mas daghan lang kwarta China maong Carrier ila gi refurbish...

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceb3370 View Post
    China launches first aircraft carrier on maiden sea
    Chris Buckley

    BEIJING (Reuters) - China launched its first aircraft carrier for a maiden run on Wednesday, a step likely to boost patriotic pride at home and jitters abroad about Beijing's naval ambitions.

    The long-awaited debut of the vessel, a refitted former Soviet craft, marked a step forward in China's long-term plan to build a carrier force that can project power into the Asian region, where seas are spanned by busy shipping lanes and thorny territorial disputes.

    "Its symbolic significance outweighs its practical significance," said Ni Lexiong, an expert on Chinese maritime policy at the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law.

    "We're already a maritime power, and so we need an appropriate force, whether that's aircraft carriers or battleships, just like the United States or the British empire did," he said in a telephone interview.

    The carrier "left its shipyard in Dalian Port in northeast Liaoning province on Wednesday morning to start its first sea trial," said the official Xinhua news agency, describing the trip as a tentative test run for the unfinished ship.

    The aircraft carrier, which is about 300 meters (984 feet) long, plowed through fog and sounded its horn three times as it left the dock, Xinhua said on its military news microblog.

    Xinhua said that "building a strong navy that is commensurate with China's rising status is a necessary step and an inevitable choice for the country to safeguard its increasingly globalised national interests."

    Chinese citizens said the carrier launch showed their country deserved more respect from the rest of the world, despite problems it faces at home.

    A high-speed train crash last month left many Chinese people bemoaning what they called officials' reckless hunger for passing technological milestones.

    "An aircraft carrier is the mark of major powers," Pan Chunli, a 29-year-old IT technician in Beijing told Reuters.

    "China has grown dramatically. The whole world should take a fresh look at China, viewing it as a rising power that it has the ability to defend its rights and territory."

    Retired Chinese navy Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo told state-run television that his country intended to build an air carrier group, but the task would be long and difficult.

    "As for forming a carrier group, I think that will take at least ten years," he told a Chinese television broadcast on the carrier launch.

    PRESTIGE AND POWER

    Last month, China confirmed that it was refitting the old, unfinished Soviet carrier hull bought from Ukraine's government, and sources told Reuters it was also building two of its own carriers.

    "China has had a longstanding fascination with the national prestige attached to aircraft carriers, and this first sea trial may be seen as a crucial step toward the goal of achieving great naval power status," said Chengxin Pan, an expert on China at Deakin University in Australia.

    If Beijing is serious about having a viable carrier strike group, however, it will need three carriers, Ashley Townshend at the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney told Reuters in an interview before the debut of the vessel.

    China would also have to develop support ships and aircraft for any carrier group, Townshend said.

    In China's neighborhood, India and Thailand already have aircraft carriers, and Australia has ordered two multi-purpose carriers. The United States operates 11 carriers.

    Before the launch, a Pentagon spokesman played down the likelihood of any immediate leaps from China's carrier program. U.S. experts on the Chinese navy agreed.

    "A newly-wed couple wants a 'starter home', a new great power wants a 'starter carrier'," Andrew Erickson of the U.S. Naval War College and Gabriel Collins, a security analyst, wrote in a note about the carrier launch (Andrew S. Erickson*|*China analysis from original sources).

    "China's 'starter carrier' is of very limited military utility, and will primarily serve to confer prestige on a rising great power, to help the military master basic procedures, and to project a bit of power," they wrote.

    LONG-STANDING DISPUTES

    But the carrier is just one part of China's naval modernization drive, which has forged ahead while other powers tighten their military budgets to cope with debt woes.

    "For many neighbors, it may symbolize something different and more unsettling," said Pan, the Deakin University lecturer, referring to China's carrier.

    "It is inevitable that neighboring countries will react with some alarm, especially given recent disputes in the South China Sea as well as the maritime incident between China and Japan last year," he said.

    China has been building new submarines, ships and anti-ship ballistic missiles as part of its naval modernization.

    The country's growing reach at sea is triggering regional jitters that have fed into long-standing territorial disputes, and could speed up military expansion across Asia.

    In the past year, China has had run-ins at sea with Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines. The incidents -- boat crashes and charges of territorial incursions -- have been minor, but the diplomatic fallout often heated.

    "They want to assert their dominance in East Asia as well as the Chinese sea and they have very ambitious plans of asserting their claims over some islands," retired Indian Major General Ashok Mehta, a defense analyst in Delhi, said of China.

    "India has lot of catching up to do and the history of India's catching up is not very impressive," he said, noting New Delhi's plan to have three aircraft carriers by 2015.

    Last week, Japan warned that China's naval forces were likely to increase activities around its waters.

    But China did not want to rile its neighbors with the carrier debut, said Ni, the Shanghai professor.

    "A single, solitary aircraft carrier floating on the sea, without the accompanying forces, doesn't constitute a battle force," said Ni. "It would be a sitting duck if you tried to send it out."





    "kalooy tawn sa pinas."
    you didnt wrote this article. next time provide link.

    mura ka insik sge pamirata! peace

  5. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    your NPA or something?
    No. but seriously, if you want to get things done might as well FORCE people to do it. Di man makakurakot ang gobyerno ana kai wala mai kwarta niagi. Oras ra man.

    On top of that the gov't can choose the best contractor it wishes.

    That's how russia did it. That's how china did it. Hell, that's even how Marcos did it.

    Communism, dictatorship works but ONLY if you have a good leader (which of course doesn't exist).

  6. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    you didnt wrote this article. next time provide link.

    mura ka insik sge pamirata! peace
    dude i dont claim that i wrote this article.

    ako nlng ge paste para dli na mag click2x sa link ang mga mobasa.



    (copy and paste, that's what we called sharing..)

  7. #87

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship

    ^^^
    You don't even need to be the one to have wrote such article
    just state your claims based on your understanding on what you have read or bumped into online
    dissect it and expound for further articulation
    or give us your brief condensation to the article

    Coz most of us even doubt you even understood what you are reading

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0 View Post
    yes we do bai. We build the British Royal Navy's battleships at the Balamban shipyard. Not sure if we're still doing it recently.
    Please see this post:
    https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l#post10779352

    Quote Originally Posted by wikki View Post
    No but we can probably build more than a dozen cheap patrol boats and purchase missile systems from russia or china and fit them into the boats, which would make a lot more sense.

    450 million for a floating piece of junk (yes its junk by standards since they are getting rid of the thing). what a ripp off.
    OK. So when the patrol boats encounter resistance (like, say, a Chinese frigate), who do they call? The other patrol boats?

    Also, when a ship is decommissioned, it doesn't mean they "junk" 'em directly. Do some research: Watch this

    Quote Originally Posted by ceb3370 View Post
    my point there is pag launch sa pinas ug bag,ong barko.. china does it also.

    but compared to the 2. mura rag lifeboat ang ge launch sa Philippines.

    Pero ge lang tayaon man guro ng barko sa PH, bcin maka tetanus na sa kontra.
    LOL! Are you implying na tungod kay nipalit ta ug barko, nag-launch sad ang China ug aircraft carrier? Kita jud ang hinungdan??

    Please read up on the timelines of when the ships were bought, the activities involved in this, etc.

    When China bought that aircraft carrier hull from Ukraine puro sad na taya.

  9. #89

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship

    coola kaha ani in person ^___^

  10. #90

    Default Re: Philippine Navy acquires biggest warship

    even an elementary can understand the article. it does not contain such unique English words.

    or are u still in nursery?

    ok enough of this already.. OT na kau..

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