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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_hard View Post
    walay Saint Hard diri....hehehe..btw very touching keu ilang story, im just wondering y one has to suffer to be called saint.....

    basin ikaw nana who knows di ba?

    In answer to your question I found this article which I believe sufficiently rationalizes the said subject:

    We live in a world that runs from suffering. Since the time of our youth, we have been conditioned to view suffering as an impediment to happiness. This worldview which is so imbued in our culture, tells us, that the less we suffer, the happier we will be. Yet, in the writings of the Saints, we find an entirely different reality; that it is precisely suffering that strengthens us, humbles us, and forges us into saints. But more than this, we discover that suffering is of such inestimable redemptive worth, that nothing equals it in heaven or on earth. As Our Lord told Saint Faustina; "If the angels were capable of envy, they would envy us for two things: one is the receiving of Holy Communion, and the other is suffering." (p.1805) But why is this so? Why has the motto of the Saints down through the centuries always been; "to love and to suffer"? Why is it not;"to love and to do good works", or "to love and to preach"?
    According to the Saints, when we seek to deny our wills and offer sufferings in love for Our Lord, we draw down from heaven more grace than any other action we can possibly make. In fact, the saints teach us that suffering is of such great merit, that it is greater than external works such as preaching, writing, or even working miracles. The defining moment of redemption for the human race was not when Our Lord healed the sick or preached in the synagogues. It was when the God-Man was nailed to a cross and drained of His blood out of love for mankind. We see then that there is no greater measure of our love than our willingness to follow in the footsteps of Our Redeemer, that is; our willingness to be affixed to a cross and to suffer, just as the apostles (Acts 5:41, 14:21, Rom 8:18, 2 Corinthians 12:10, etc.). By doing so, we join in the redemptive work of Christ through our sufferings (Col 1:24). We become little co-redeemers, and merit the conversion and sanctification of souls. This is the final end of suffering; the salvation of mankind. As Our Lady told the world at Fatima; "Many souls go to hell because there is no one to sacrifice themselves and pray for them." And if this is so, should it then be any coincidence that that which is so cherished by Our Lord, is that which is most feared and misunderstood by the world?

    "Anyone who wants to be a true Christian must mortify his flesh for no other reason than devotion to Jesus, who, for love of us, Mortified His entire body on the Cross." - Padre Pio

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    Naa pa ba diay mulabaw sa gipakita ni Kristo about Sacrifice and Sufferings?

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    All I can learn from saint is
    the more there are (saints) means the more the world is crawling & lurking with oppression, cruelty and injustices.

    What I meant to say that these people succumbing to their worldly demise and into martyrdom...or sainthood..or whatever you call it, from the struggles & cruelty from people & society.

    Just the same as a billing the Philippines a nation full or heroes which is not at all flattering to me
    or a compliment given as we are a nation full of brave & courageous people when in fact it simply shows
    it took these number of individuals (heroes) to stand up for those who plenty can't fight or stand for themselves.

    everyone is free to comment but spare me the nationalistic & patriotic blah..blah thinking I'm not a proud filipino. If ever naa mu disagree please do in an articulate manner

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    did god mention pray for thge saints! god is a jealous person.. you should pray directly to him

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    kabantay mo most if not all recognized saints are caucasians
    or if naa man lain from other racial denomination--african, asian...gamay ra?

    is it because they have these line drawn between those who belonged to that "noble" race of which are western, white, caucasians from that "other" race?
    or regardless of humanitarian deeds, struggles and oppression maybe there are those non-caucasians with the same or even more miserable & genuine undertakings went unrecognized?

    Remember people one, or if not, the greatest oppressors, historically speaking and let bygones be bygones, are those of the west or europe, whites or caucassians.
    If ever their are saints their should be more non-westerners.
    It is also its abi kay dili christian or catholic anha ma define ang sainthood rather than one's deed and sacrifices that has eased the burden of the plenty?

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    asa na kaha ilang kalag karun?

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    i think daghang saints na Caucasians kay christianity started in greece and not in asia. Of course, alangan naman mulupad sila, anha jud sila sa ilang boundary maabot.

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    up lang ni nko nga thread....post pa mo ug mga story sa saint kay nindot kaayo basa-basahon

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    ang ginoo ang nag declare anan nla nga saint cla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    kabantay mo most if not all recognized saints are caucasians
    or if naa man lain from other racial denomination--african, asian...gamay ra?

    is it because they have these line drawn between those who belonged to that "noble" race of which are western, white, caucasians from that "other" race?
    or regardless of humanitarian deeds, struggles and oppression maybe there are those non-caucasians with the same or even more miserable & genuine undertakings went unrecognized?

    Remember people one, or if not, the greatest oppressors, historically speaking and let bygones be bygones, are those of the west or europe, whites or caucassians.
    If ever their are saints their should be more non-westerners.
    It is also its abi kay dili christian or catholic anha ma define ang sainthood rather than one's deed and sacrifices that has eased the burden of the plenty?
    A saint is one who's now enjoying the company of God so I believe there are a lot more saints than we could ever count or could ever know of. Only God knows who they all are whether the living world recognizes them or not. Everything will be revealed in His time.

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