MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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The issue here is not about LOVE .

Its about the SACRAMENT of MARRIAGE which is being VIOLATED .

I see more post about PRIEST being GAY , sila mo gawas and most likely . This will be a WARNING for MUTE instead of INFRACTION . That would teach you how to inTeract maturely .

[slakker]

if they really love each other, they should have their wedding in a country where same sxx marriage is legal so that their union will be legitimate...

[boylaang]

I don't see anything wrong with this. If you really think God finds their union an abomination, then let God punish them himself. Stay out of it kay they're doing nothing wrong to you. So long as they pay their taxes ug dili mamwerwisyo sa ubang tao, then I don't really care what they do with their personal/sexual/love life.

Besides, wala man ni civil effect ila marriage kay di man gihapon i-recognize sa state. They're just exercising their freedom of religion, kay sa ila ra man pud ning kaugalingon simbahan, wa may labot ang Catholic Church ani.

You dont find anything wrong with this?

sa ato pa ok ra ang same *** marrriage?
wala ba mi violate ug rule, law etc.?
their freedom of religion
ok ra d i bisan masupak sa balaod basta e exercise ang freedom of religion or whatever practices??

how about raping and killing unya nag excercise pud sa freedom of religion?

ok support mo sa same *** maarriage

[biano]

after the RH bill is legalize, this "things" will follow....
other countries already doing this, expect in the near future kita nasad, ug dili nana cla ma "shock" ^^

RH Bill is funded by the established world Elite - Why would they want to control the population of the Philippines?

Because they know what each of every person is capable to do - the power of humanity.

People are a threat to their agendas (never a threat to of the earth's ecosystem) - therefore elimination of some of them is a must.

Therefor "Man made Global Warming" - Which is taught in almost all of our grade school students - is a Big Scam - ever heard of the Climate Gate?

The elite are brainwashing the people to "fear the growth of human population".

Instead of Fearing The Almighty God!

People Today Already Do NOT Fear God and His Wrath he can Cause to an Unrepentant Nation.

The world elite has to control the population to a manageable number.

Ted Turner - Owner of CNN, ect. Said. "World population has to be reduced to 2 Billion" "a mere 2/3 reduction of the human population" - ted

YouTube - ‪Ted Turner Wants Population Reduction Through China' s "One Child Policy"‬‏

2 Billion ? - It's already manageable for the World Elite. Nope, Not enough. Lower the numbers to half a billion maybe.

Now the RH Bill spearheads all other coming bills - the most conservative of all bills like One Child Policy Bill, Abortion Bill, Gay Marriage Bill.

Note: I didn't say China "will" invade us. I said God "Can" Use China To Invade us if THIS NATION " PHILIPPINES" will continue doing these abominations(Adultery - Divorce Bill, Sodom - Gay Marriage, ect..)

Men Following Upon Their Own Lust - Wants Adultery - Divorce Bill, Wants Abortion, Denies God and His Word.

[biano]

I don't see anything wrong with this. If you really think God finds their union an abomination, then let God punish them himself. Stay out of it kay they're doing nothing wrong to you. So long as they pay their taxes ug dili mamwerwisyo sa ubang tao, then I don't really care what they do with their personal/sexual/love life.

Besides, wala man ni civil effect ila marriage kay di man gihapon i-recognize sa state. They're just exercising their freedom of religion, kay sa ila ra man pud ning kaugalingon simbahan, wa may labot ang Catholic Church ani.

A nation will be judged by God as a whole. If people do not know that - better start reading the Bible.

That's why we have to make an open rebuke to these things - unless we want God's wrath to come.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Mga nagpapakilalang "Reverend" pero simpleng doctine sa bible hindi alam.
Imoral ang magkasal ng parehong lalake or parehong babae.
It will only promote SODOMY.
Kailangan pa bang ime-morize yan?

Trivia:
The word REVEREND was mentioned only once in the bible.

Sadyang makakapal lang ang pagmumukha ng mga paring katoliko para ikapit sa kanila ang salitang "REVEREND".

[noel_llapa]

A nation will be judged by God as a whole. If people do not know that - better start reading the Bible.

That's why we have to make an open rebuke to these things - unless we want God's wrath to come.

Wrath of god? A god who punishes people for their sexual orientation is a shallow, sadistic god. I'd rather burn in hell than obey such petty and narrow-minded bigot of a deity. In the first place, a god who metes out eternal torment to a non-eternal crime is an unjust god.

[noel_llapa]

You dont find anything wrong with this?

sa ato pa ok ra ang same *** marrriage?
wala ba mi violate ug rule, law etc.?
their freedom of religion
ok ra d i bisan masupak sa balaod basta e exercise ang freedom of religion or whatever practices??

how about raping and killing unya nag excercise pud sa freedom of religion?

ok support mo sa same *** maarriage

WALA SILAY GISUPAK NA BALAOD kay wala nila gi-force sa state na i-recognize ang ila marriage. Mere ceremony is not legally binding . Read your Family Code intawn. Basic na sya. Wala silay valid na marriage contract na girecord sa civil registrar, purely ceremonial ra na ila gibuhat. If kung naay tao diha sa kilid-kilid nag-minyo minyo ug ilaha, even with a priest's 'blessing,' wala nay effect ilang marriage, di na mugawas sa ilang mga legal documents, ug walay rason na mapriso na sila.

And YES it's an exercise of freedom of religion. Nganong kanang mga Muslim di man nimo ipapriso na daghan man nay asawa? It's because it's their religion. If kini na religion mag-minyo-minyo silag ilaha without obligating the state to recognize their union, then wala silay na-perwisyo.

Grabe ka mabaw ug fallacious sa imong analogy ui. Raping and killing? How can you compare same-*** marriage to murder and rape? Kinsa may biktima ani sa ilang gibuhat? Ikaw? Ang state? Naa silay gipugus ug paminyo? Naa silay gipugus na murecognize sa ilang union? Is god their victim? Then let god defend himself! Is your god so impotent na ikaw pa ang persecute og mu-discriminate in his behalf?

And yes personally I find nothing wrong with same-*** marriage. I know a lot of gay couples na maayo ug batasan, responsible pa sa ilang relationship, ug kugihan pa sa ilang trabaho. By all means, they are upstanding citizens and they damn well deserve my respect.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Mga nagpapakilalang "Reverend" pero simpleng doctine sa bible hindi alam.
Imoral ang magkasal ng parehong lalake or parehong babae.
It will only promote SODOMY.
Kailangan pa bang ime-morize yan?

Trivia:
The word REVEREND was mentioned only once in the bible.

Sadyang makakapal lang ang pagmumukha ng mga paring katoliko para ikapit sa kanila ang salitang "REVEREND".

I would not be amazed if you are another Christian of a different denomination . Heck even INC and ADD cant even get along because of their own interpretations of the bible so do me a favor , please dont talk about DOCTRINES because if you cant accept mine , much more than me realizing how rotten your doctrines are if you dig .

Lastly ... whats with the statements youve got ? Its very contradicting . I do hope you are aware of it . I do hope also that you know what is a REVEREND .

@ NOELL_ LLAPA ...

I do hope that all the GAYS and LESBIANS that existed has your well deserving respect otherwise , if it only applies to some ... its nothing different to the RESPECT you show to the REAL COUPLES also maski ga LIVE IN ra na sila .

All of us know a lot of GAY and LESBIAN COUPLES who are good christians and honest citizens but that doesnt make it right if they decide to have that union . It is also ridiculous to compare the practice of MUSLIMS to the practice of CHRISTIANS and since ang subject of the issue are Christians who are based in Bagiuo , I am pretty sure di lang Katoliko ang ni condemn nila pod .

Mura bitaw na ug naa ka amigo na BAYOT ... agbay siya nimo ok ra , amigo gud mo . The moment gani manguot na siya aw di namo amigo unless ganahan ka . The point being raised here are the BOUNDARIES and LIMITATIONS which are very TABOOS and violates not only the commandments and sanctity of the 7 gifts but also the morality , in the Philippines pa jud where Christians dominate populations wise .

[noel_llapa]

I would not be amazed if you are another Christian of a different denomination . Heck even INC and ADD cant even get along because of their own interpretations of the bible so do me a favor , please dont talk about DOCTRINES because if you cant accept mine , much more than me realizing how rotten your doctrines are if you dig .

Lastly ... whats with the statements youve got ? Its very contradicting . I do hope you are aware of it . I do hope also that you know what is a REVEREND .

@ NOELL_ LLAPA ...

I do hope that all the GAYS and LESBIANS that existed has your well deserving respect otherwise , if it only applies to some ... its nothing different to the RESPECT you show to the REAL COUPLES also maski ga LIVE IN ra na sila .

All of us know a lot of GAY and LESBIAN COUPLES who are good christians and honest citizens but that doesnt make it right if they decide to have that union . It is also ridiculous to compare the practice of MUSLIMS to the practice of CHRISTIANS and since ang subject of the issue are Christians who are based in Bagiuo , I am pretty sure di lang Katoliko ang ni condemn nila pod .

Mura bitaw na ug naa ka amigo na BAYOT ... agbay siya nimo ok ra , amigo gud mo . The moment gani manguot na siya aw di namo amigo unless ganahan ka . The point being raised here are the BOUNDARIES and LIMITATIONS which are very TABOOS and violates not only the commandments and sanctity of the 7 gifts but also the morality , in the Philippines pa jud where Christians dominate populations wise .

You're analogy is misleading. What boundaries have they crossed? As I've said, they are not compelling you or any other Christian to recognize their partnership. They are conducting their ceremony within the confines of their own church's private property and they seek no ties or connection to your religion or any others. And they certainly are not touching your privates!

And no it is not ridiculous to compare it to the Muslim practice of polygamy. The fact that that particular church calls itself Christian doesn't give other Christian denominations the right to tell it what and what not to practice as so much as they don't have the right to tell what Muslims and Hindus what and what not to believe. INC members don't believe that Jesus Christ is a god, yet no one no one in mainstream Christianity is accusing them of violating the sanctity of their own respective religions.

As for Taboos, they are relative and subjective. What may be taboo for conservatives like you may be completely acceptable for liberals like me. And is there an EXPLICIT mention in the Decalogue that forbids same-*** marriage? And please don't tell me that it is implied in the text because that is highly debatable.

You say you respect same-*** couples, then why not let them practice their belief? They're not harming you, they're not even asking you to believe in what they believe. They're not using your taxes to fund their weddings. They're not conducting their ceremony inside your church or even in public property. They're not even asking you LIKE what they believe. All they want is for you to leave them be. Heck, you're even free to CONDEMN their beliefs as much as you like, freedom of expression is part of democracy after all. The only consolation they have is that the law wont recognize your CONDEMNATION just as it won't recognize their marriage.

And just because the Philippines has a Christian majority, it doesn't give Christians the right to dictate what is moral or what is not, even Christians cannot agree among themselves in that issue. The Philippines is not a theocracy. And the tyranny of the majority should not become state policy. I personally don't believe in the bible or any other religious text for that matter, would that make me immoral?

I respect couples, hetero or otherwise, so long as they follow the law ug dili mamerwesyo ug dili manakit sa ubang tao. I care not what they do they in the privacy of their churches or in their bedroom, so long as they're not hurting of forcing each other pud.