Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

[tokidoki]

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btw, the people who kept things to themselves? They usually end up dead. Ask the jews who died by the millions in hitler's camps. Or the people who died in god's name.

'evil thrives when good people do nothing'

[diatabz]

Ironic, since the Catholic doctrine, if you read it well, clearly says that capitalism is wrong. But what can you expect from the Phil. RCC? I remember that it was Cardinal Sin himself who tried to justify their acceptance of gambling money from PAGCOR. The fat f*ck was caught with his pants down, yet people still defended him.

[dustin]

"But I believe in the Catholic Church, for it is tested thru times and I truly believe in my faith, even if some people like priests are not behaving well"

Tested for what bro? Ive been a catholic for a long time until i start reading the bible and i encounter so many teachings of god for us that was never taught by the priest. WHY? Because it conradicts by what they are teaching us..

My advice for you bro.. READ the bible just be biblicall and you will see what is the charactiristic of a true religion that belongs to the real god!!!

I am not marveled for those religion that make merchandise out of it, because it was written long time ago in the bible!!even ang members ipang baligya ba sa mga leaders of the church, and its being practice now by other religion.. And its called "block voting".. Read the bible guys if you have time reading a lot of post here forum just take a little time to read he bible even just 20mins of your time in a day...try lang..

Guys just stick to this topic sa pag reply dont get personall labayay rani ug thougths para dili harmfull!!!

[thrallala81]

again... Hahayzzzz...... bai pwede raman dli ka mohatag sa catholic church period..... mao bitaw ni take sila og investment... kay dili naman gud LAW ang mohatag og 10% tithes sa catholic church.... ingna hinuon ko sa mga old testament user kay obligation og LAW na mohatag og 10% tithes sa church....

[dustin]

again... Hahayzzzz...... bai pwede raman dli ka mohatag sa catholic church period..... mao bitaw ni take sila og investment... kay dili naman gud LAW ang mohatag og 10% tithes sa catholic church.... ingna hinuon ko sa mga old testament user kay obligation og LAW na mohatag og 10% tithes sa church....

The thing man gud ani bro kay dili man gud mahug sa kabubut.un sa mo hatag kay ang boyot i atubang man sa imong nawnng unya they know sa batasan sa taw nga bahala ug walay sud.an sa ilaha basta makit.an nga ni hatag sa buyot proud kaayo, and even ang mga envelop manglupad sa tagsa tagsa ka balay is that right to say nga sa kabubut.un na sa taw nga mo hatag, ang tinoud nga kabubut.un kanang ikaw gyud ang mo doul sa imong gi hatagan dili ang hatagan maoy mo adtu sa balay sa mi hatag...even the poorest of the poor mo hug sa buyot ug singko nga unta mapalit nato ug usa ka putos nga ginaling para sud.an!! Mangutang para hikay sa fiesta..Saun nalang!! mao bana ang gusto sa ginoo? Think about it!!!

And how can you explain the special and ordinary mass? Meaning ba ana kung special mas dunggon sa ginoo? Ug ang kamahal sa bunyag ug kasal? kung walay kwarta dili ka pa bunyag, nganung mahal man kaau unsa man ila gi puhunan ana nganu mahal man kaayo? Just think about it lang...and you will see what im talking about...

[masterjanuarius]

janus, padayon man ka pakaulaw sa imung biasd logic. F nai judge? Bai wake up again! Istoryans here are the judge, wa ka kabantay ikaw ra pabulhot diha pero ang uban namatngnun na? Get real. Places like these are where people wake up. If you can't get that thru your religiously manical brain then you need more waking up or continue in your church of dreamland. Istorya is not a place for people like you with blind/idiotic faith. If u don't get what that means try to figure out why the religion threads are locked. Maybe you can get a taste of reality check.

the people in those threads? They're not even anywhere else. Murag purpose ila kinabuhi cge justify ila tinuhuan. Duda naghikog nato kai wlay purpose ila life nw.

If emotional ko pre what does that make you? Blind? Blinded by faith! Duda ko bai maskin ikaw d ka patulan pud sa judge kai wlay credibility due to bias.

My comment still stands: DO NOT ASSUME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRIEST.

Mao na naglikay ka sa akong gisulti na dli pwede 'so be it'. Beggars can't be choosers.

Let me relate it for u. If sweldohan ka ug 6 figures imu employer naa paka balls mka.ingon ug so be it kai abi dako nka sweldo? Suwayi kuno.

Make my Day!
So istorya is for guys like you bro? hehe .. istoryahe ...
Unless of course the moderator will banned me here ...
if not then I have also my chance, not right TS, to say my piece .. and whether you will like it or not ... I never want you to change your opinion nor "force" others to follow what I think ... which I think is just opposite to yours with your "wake ups" and "calling names as "religious manic" or even "says something about "jews"! Sorry kiddo ...
the whole istorya is my judge? well so be it .. I hope they too will say their piece ... but on other other hand, they don't have to ...
Emotional? hehe .. been to more depressing situations in the world, bro. I assure you that in my posts here, never I cursed or cussed hehe ..
If I don't share your views on the Church, what is it with you? That does not even posit your being smarter than I am or I am to you ...

[cobraKing]

hala naa nay nibarog sa mga father..

unsa man sad imohang rason ngano imoha cla gi defend?

[JcBoY]

if you don't like the Catholic church then balhin ug lain nga religion para walay gubot. then ask them about their money, pila ka million sab ilang gi invest sa uban corporations.
And if you don't belong to any religion then keep it to yourself.

If you want to "expose" the bad things about the Catholic church then remember that the Catholic church has been through worst. and it's normal for an organization to up or down.

But I believe in the Catholic Church, for it is tested thru times and I truly believe in my faith, even if some people like priests are not behaving well.

And it's not bad for an organization to invest their money in stocks since they need it for their operation. As I have said, go to other major religious groups and ask them how many millions they have invested in some big corporations.

and you ask, why are they asking for donations where they have enough money?

mura ra na ug taw, tan.awon nimo.. dghan kwarta pero kung ikaw cya.. you will know nga dako man diay ni siya ug gastohon. sakto2x ra jud diay iyang kwarta.

in short, you cannot really tell that they have too much if you don't know exactly pila ilang expenses. dali ra kaau ta maka judge about ana pero we really don't have the right, coz we don't know the details.. why not ask your local parish their statement of assets and liabilities?

and if you have the right kay mihatag or donate ka.. remember lang.. kung mohatag gani ka. yaw pag expect ug something ky wala nka mihatag ana, mi invest nka. ok? then ayaw na ug donate, hawa sa organization.

if dili ka Catholic, and you ask them.. how come you have millions?? then you don't have the right kay dili man ka part sa organization ug dili na imong kwarta..

Sigurado ka niining imong gipang-yawyaw boss?

Kay ako sigurado man ko nga daghan na kaayo nang-balhin ug laing relihiyon. Unya naa pud ko nahibal-an nga relihiyon nga they don't invest their money for financial/personal profits.

Mao na ako nangutana, kon kanang mga donations gikan sa mga business establishments, tax deductible ba na? Kay naa man gud ko nadunggan nga tax deductible na, unya kadagko ra ba ana nga donations kay mo-range ug 5-6 digits. So, ato ma-assume nga mora ug double taxation na.

Now, kanang bahin anang investments sa simbahan ngadto sa mga banks ug uban pang mga negosyo, kadugay na ba ana! remember the losing Monte de Piedad Bank (Monte de Piedad - WikiPilipinas: The Hip 'n Free Philippine Encyclopedia, WISH YOU WERE HERE)

Tinuod baya nang gibati sa uban nga sakit paminawon sa usa ka tumuloo nga bisan sa kagamay sa iyang nahatag apan kinasingkasing baya na unya gipang-capital na nuon sa simbahan ug negosyo! Dili man siguro ana ang intentions/goals anang charitable acts sa usa ka tumoloo. (Sa una sa Katoliko pa ko, nakahinumdom ko sa usa ka simbahan dinhi sa Cebu nga miingon ang pari sa usa niya ka sermon, "Mao ra ni inyo mahatag para sa Ginoo, PISO? PISO LANG?) REMEMBER if you really following Jesus Christs acts you never have to do that to your flocks, that to me constitute DECEIT.

[jaez]

i knew it, they even ask for 2nd collection intended to the poor. they are not willing to share the first collection with the poor.

[kajrot1]

Money is the Root of all Evil..