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  1. #221

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel


    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    withdrahon oi! lech! ngano gud tawn pa drama2x sila na "they need our help" na they obviously don't.

    and yes, with that kind of money it can be invested in practical means. invest in businesses to provide jobs for the jobless.

    if 12B is in BPI let me spell it out for the rest who don't see the sinister act of this religious pig. They make money from people BORROWING money. That's right, everyone with half a brain already knows that banks make money out of interests and investments. If you think about it, this priest made money out of debt from people NOT by giving it away.

    So once again, I am again pulling my hair out of my head in anguish at the thought na nangayo pa sila - NAGPAUTANG pa gyud. There is no "GIVE" in this scenario!
    your concern is understandable. but the Church have several concerns as well nga dapat e comtemplate regarding anang pataka og invest. remeber nga one wrong move can drain your money instantly.

    and you think investing sa BPI, San Miguel and Philex dili practical? it's more than practical. sa akung tan aw pinaka wise na nga decision kay ni expand man sad na nga mga company consistently which eventually generates jobs. wala lang nato na nakita. intangibles.

    sa akung observation, ang mga big-time successful businessman ang nakapa-burot samot sa wealth sa Church. kabantay ka anang mga rich nga muadto sa Church? naa man gani uban muhatag og tag P500.00 or P1,000.00 bill ilunod sa sibot. so dili sayop sa Church if ang mga rich mo share sa ilang blessings ngadto sa Church.

    again, if in ana ang personal view nimo sa Church i respeto pod na nato.

  2. #222

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    ^^ preha ra bitaw na sa politician pre. When you go in you're expected to have the upright morals of someone of the job. But it is implied that once you're in, you should be familiar with the "magic" actions of the job.

    But let's not be hypocrites. There are always "underground" aspects in all professions. Lawyer, doctors, IT pros. We all know naai palusot2x atong mga trabaho.

  3. #223

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by koontz_circle View Post
    and you think investing sa BPI, San Miguel and Philex dili practical? it's more than practical. sa akung tan aw pinaka wise na nga decision kay ni expand man sad na nga mga company consistently which eventually generates jobs. wala lang nato na nakita. intangibles.
    Well considering that majority of their investments is in BPI than the other companies then my interpretation is that they are more into lending than into investing, which to my is hypocritical since they preach about giving and their nature is debt. My recommendation is IHATAG nang kwartaha kai di mana ilaha para gamiton sa ilang kaugalingong pamaagi.

    sa akung observation, ang mga big-time successful businessman ang nakapa-burot samot sa wealth sa Church. kabantay ka anang mga rich nga muadto sa Church? naa man gani uban muhatag og tag P500.00 or P1,000.00 bill ilunod sa sibot. so dili sayop sa Church if ang mga rich mo share sa ilang blessings ngadto sa Church.
    As i've said bai. "psychological conditioning". We give without the knowledge of such.

    But I'm a little too pissed right now to fathom all of this.

  4. #224

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    So, dili nalang pud mag-invest atong goberno, kay daghan pa man kaayo pobre? Hutdon nalang tanang kwarta iyahatag sa mga pobre? Para equal sharing?
    hehehe.. saonz.. ok man ang government.. ang church man aq pasabot dre..

  5. #225

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    Well considering that majority of their investments is in BPI than the other companies then my interpretation is that they are more into lending than into investing, which to my is hypocritical since they preach about giving and their nature is debt. My recommendation is IHATAG nang kwartaha kai di mana ilaha para gamiton sa ilang kaugalingong pamaagi
    in my point of view, murag gi exercise lang sa Church ilang freedom to choose asa nila i invest, kay sa aku nang giingon.. there's nothing bad about it. regardless if unsa ang nature sa business as long as dili illegal. if more on lending ang majority sa ilang investment, then so be it.. diba daghan man sad natabangan sa mga lending institutions? daghan ang naka start og family business through lending. so the bright side is always there.

    Church money, just giving it all away to the people? no way. they have better purpose for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    As i've said bai. "psychological conditioning". We give without the knowledge of such.
    those churchgoers na consistent or not consistent sa ilang offerings ngadto Church are knowledgeable enough about the virtue of giving without asking something in return. those people are just plainly thankful sa ilang moral, financial and spiritual blessings in life. bisan unsa ka gamay.
    Last edited by koontz_circle; 06-02-2011 at 12:32 PM. Reason: i

  6. #226

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by koontz_circle View Post
    in my point of view, murag gi exercise lang sa Church ilang freedom to choose asa nila i invest, kay sa aku nang giingon.. there's nothing bad about it. regardless if unsa ang nature sa business as long as dili illegal. if more on lending ang majority sa ilang investment, then so be it.. diba daghan man sad natabangan sa mga lending institutions? daghan ang naka start og family business through lending. so the bright side is always there.
    You've seen "The Professional" man siguro bai noh? Banks are always "questionable" in their investment. For all I know, they could be investing that money to fund the rebels and ARMM forces in Mindanao, which, ironically, are nothing close to "Christian". Don't get me wrong, it has been proven that banks actually do this. Who is to say our banks are not doing the same? We Don't

  7. #227

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    ^^ and if this is true bai, as #4 stockholder of a bank di ka pwede makaingon na wala ka alam ana. Hugas Kamay: The last person who did that in their culture was indirectly responsible for nailing Jesus to the cross.

  8. #228

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    usahay naa pa 2nd and 3rd collection

  9. #229

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    You've seen "The Professional" man siguro bai noh? Banks are always "questionable" in their investment. For all I know, they could be investing that money to fund the rebels and ARMM forces in Mindanao, which, ironically, are nothing close to "Christian". Don't get me wrong, it has been proven that banks actually do this. Who is to say our banks are not doing the same? We Don't
    haven’t seen the movie yet, but naka read kog fiction novel nga parehag scenario ana. Possible na sya mahitabo, but not with their BPI investments. Strict na ilang auditors kay taga SGV hehe. Confident ko sa integrity sa mga big banking instituions nato diri sir

  10. #230

    Default Re: Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

    hopefully na taxan ni ilang mga negosyo kay kung wala ambot nalang, samukan raba kaau

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