Hacking(discussion)

[Sand Man]

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Sus nara man diay ni. hehehehe

RootCon Project X

Mayta, I'll see you there sad.

Maybe. Marking my calendar...

[cliff_drew]

There should be a subject course on "Hacking" in IT or CS schools. Pfffft they always teach us how to code and code and code and code and code web systems and applications without teaching us how to encrypt and safeguard our source code.

That is why I'm joining RootCon 5.

Time will come bro. But as of the current, very few professionals are experts on this field. Majidemo is right, some of those professionals are working in big companies locally or even abroad. Though there are some companies/training centers who offer Ethical hacking courses but are very expensive for students, IMO.

[unLi_ra]

naa lang ko ask since this is about "hacking"

i have a gmail account and sometimes when i check my emails and logout, naay message mu-appear something like this.. another user is "using"(i forgot the word here) on the same browser. click logout again to.. something like that nga message..

it happened to me thrice na, and im thinking basig naay nakabalo sa akong password or gi-hack ba kaha akong account. pwedeko ninyo tabangan ani?

[majidemo]

naa lang ko ask since this is about "hacking"

i have a gmail account and sometimes when i check my emails and logout, naay message mu-appear something like this.. another user is "using"(i forgot the word here) on the same browser. click logout again to.. something like that nga message..

it happened to me thrice na, and im thinking basig naay nakabalo sa akong password or gi-hack ba kaha akong account. pwedeko ninyo tabangan ani?

I suggest changing your password. but before that, scan your PC with a good anti-virus. You could be infected with a "trojan" (keylogged or R.A.T'ed).

Then try to see if you will still be experiencing the error. If not, then probably your account has/had been compromised.

Good luck.

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Use Karspersky, Avira or BitDefender. (you can actually use any, but thats my personal favorites)
+ pls don't use MSEssentials.

[Sand Man]

....You could be infected with a "trojan" (keylogged or R.A.T'ed).

First thing that came to mind.

Never open suspicious emails.

[unLi_ra]

thanks sa inyong suggestions guys. will definitely do it!

[kamahak]

There should be a subject course on "Hacking" in IT or CS schools. Pfffft they always teach us how to code and code and code and code and code web systems and applications without teaching us how to encrypt and safeguard our source code.

That is why I'm joining RootCon 5.

If you're referring to "hacking" the way the media portrays it then, no, it should not be taught. It's stupid and downright insulting to professionals who spent all those fridays cooped up in there room; learning how to get around the system.

If you're talking about real "hacking" still, it's a no, because it can't be taught. Hacking is more of a mindset than a skillset. It's about being able to apply what you've learned in a way that makes things better for everyone or, at the very least, for yourself. It's about always being able to view things at a different perspective and applying the needed skills to make sh*t work.

Also, @Confessions of a white hat hacker. I only read the first few lines, but they should rethink the title- Confessions of a Script Kiddie should be doubly more appropriate.

Referring to yourself as a hacker just because you know how to use these programs is like calling yourself an engineer because you know how to drive a car. Now that can't be right.

[majidemo]

If you're referring to "hacking" the way the media portrays it then, no, it should not be taught. It's stupid and downright insulting to professionals who spent all those fridays cooped up in there room; learning how to get around the system.

If you're talking about real "hacking" still, it's a no, because it can't be taught. Hacking is more of a mindset than a skillset. It's about being able to apply what you've learned in a way that makes things better for everyone or, at the very least, for yourself. It's about always being able to view things at a different perspective and applying the needed skills to make sh*t work.

Also, @Confessions of a white hat hacker. I only read the first few lines, but they should rethink the title- Confessions of a Script Kiddie should be doubly more appropriate.

Referring to yourself as a hacker just because you know how to use these programs is like calling yourself an engineer because you know how to drive a car. Now that can't be right.

True, The title "Hackers" is now being used by kids who doesn't have anything else to do but screw with other people.

Real hackers, were those who made simple stuff, awesome. Those who worked around systems to make it better.
Hackers built Linux, Mac, PC.

Too bad, "Hackers" is now the title of cyber criminals.
The public should know the difference between a "Hacker" & a "Cracker".

[cesar_jr12]

ROOTCON 5 will be hot, ROOTCON 5 will be happening on September 9-10, 2011 at Cebu Parklane International Hotel, Cebu City, the event will run 2 days with wide variety of tracks, there will be vendor showroom, job fair, hacking contest and many more.


this will be nice....

[Sand Man]

Also, @Confessions of a white hat hacker. I only read the first few lines, but they should rethink the title- Confessions of a Script Kiddie should be doubly more appropriate.

Referring to yourself as a hacker just because you know how to use these programs is like calling yourself an engineer because you know how to drive a car. Now that can't be right.

I think you should contribute more and make this thread a more useful resource.

iStorya.net is quite prominent on Google searches, and it wouldn't be bad if your posts on this subject will be used as source reference material on online articles one of these days.

Here's one article I found. Maybe you guys can verify if what it's saying is true:

What Is a Hacker?

The Jargon File contains a bunch of definitions of the term "hacker", most having to do with technical adeptness and a delight in solving problems and overcoming limits. If you want to know how to become a hacker, though, only two are really relevant.

There is a community, a shared culture, of expert programmers and networking wizards that traces its history back through decades to the first time-sharing minicomputers and the earliest ARPAnet experiments. The members of this culture originated the term "hacker". Hackers built the Internet. Hackers made the Unix operating system what it is today. Hackers run Usenet. Hackers make the World Wide Web work. If you are part of this culture, if you have contributed to it and other people in it know who you are and call you a hacker, you're a hacker.

The hacker mind-set is not confined to this software-hacker culture. There are people who apply the hacker attitude to other things, like electronics or music "actually, you can find it at the highest levels of any science or art. Software hackers recognize these kindred spirits elsewhere and may call them "hackers" too" and some claim that the hacker nature is really independent of the particular medium the hacker works in. But in the rest of this document we will focus on the skills and attitudes of software hackers, and the traditions of the shared culture that originated the term "hacker".

There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people "crackers" and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word "hacker" to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.

The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.

If you want to be a hacker, keep reading. If you want to be a cracker, go read the alt.2600 newsgroup and get ready to do five to ten in the slammer after finding out you aren't as smart as you think you are. And that's all I'm going to say about crackers.

The Hacker Attitude

1. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved.
2. No problem should ever have to be solved twice.
3. Boredom and drudgery are evil.
4. Freedom is good.
5. Attitude is no substitute for competence.

Hackers solve problems and build things, and they believe in freedom and voluntary mutual help. To be accepted as a hacker, you have to behave as though you have this kind of attitude yourself. And to behave as though you have the attitude, you have to really believe the attitude.

But if you think of cultivating hacker attitudes as just a way to gain acceptance in the culture, you'll miss the point. Becoming the kind of person who believes these things is important for you "for helping you learn and keeping you motivated. As with all creative arts, the most effective way to become a master is to imitate the mind-set of masters" not just intellectually but emotionally as well.

Or, as the following modern Zen poem has it:

To follow the path:
look to the master,
follow the master,
walk with the master,
see through the master,
become the master.

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