Street Photography a Terrorism activity???

[wooden_heart]

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Hi, im not sure if there's already an existing thread for this, tried to search but haven't found one.

I know most of us here experienced this already. my experience goes like this. one time, during sa akong laag2x, i came across a building where its structural design amazed me. with my camera, i tried to get an artistic shot of what i saw. suddenly an officer approach me and asked me why am i taking those shots and began questioning things which i am not comfortable answering. One guard told me "Dong hununga na imung picture2x kay imbargohon ko ng imung camera ron" hearing those lines freaked me out, ana ko, "unsa diay patakaran ninyo sa pag take2x ug picture diri? may i know nganong dili pwede" wala na sya nitubag kay basta bawal lang jud daw. an officer (murag mas labaw sa guard) began questioning me like, "asa ka nag trabaho", "unsa imu trabaho" ug "name" wala ko nitubag ug tarong ato nga questions kay di ko ganahan...

I tried my research ngano ingon ani. some establishment diay, take it as "terrorism Activity". tsk2x paeta na himo na noon kong terorista ini.

Q: what are our rights as ordinary citizens nga ganahan lang jud mag picture2x against this kind of 'harassment'
Q: as a photography hobbyist, what are our limitations para dili ta ma alaan ug terrorsita?
Q: and do they really have the right to confiscate our gears if they 'suspect' us involve in a terrorist act.?

here's a video of same experience YouTube - street photography is NOT an offence

[hayden]

A: Bill of Rights
A: No law exist here in the Philippines
A: No, it's a bluff, you can hit back by threatening to sue them in court or have them fired from their jobs.

[michaelocana]

morag nindot ni nga thread pero morag naay ni exist ani sa una same case.. limot nako

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[wooden_heart]

morag nindot ni nga thread pero morag naay ni exist ani sa una same case.. limot nako

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brow wala man ko kita gud... murag ka remember bitaw ko ato na thread but murag dili to maoy concern jud ato nga topic, murag somebody made a comment about sa iyang experience about ayala nga gibadlong siya. maka domot jud kaayu ni nga experience hehe lami kaayu balikon, its a harassment gyud sya para nako, being approach by officers in uniform sa public place nya panan-awon mo sa mga tawo maulawan gyud ta. the bad thing was, they them selves don't really know ngano gibaldong ko niya basta kay bawal lang kono. Not familiar with "anti-terrorism law" i know its an international law (not sure if philippines adapted this law) so maybe same rani ug patakaran sa countries where gi-banned ang DSLR.

[waryu69]

i've read it somehwere before...

bro, as a rule,

What you can see, you can shoot... provided that :
a) you're not standing in a private property when you took the photograph, (may constitute Trespassing)
b) photographs taken are not to be used and distributed in a malicious intent

[joieboi]

I experienced this twice.

1. Inside SM MOA, shooting my friends with a DSLR(kane lage bag.o pa kasud og MOA picture2x daun) and the sec. guard approach me that bawal daw kung wala ky permit. kinahanglan daw ka mo kuha atong ID2x something nila. My friends and i are wondering "how about those people taking pictures using their fone cam or digital camera?"

2. 2nd At Cebu Business park nag night photowalk me with my other friend and then again the sec. guard approach me and asking for what reason your taking pictures and para asa daw gamiton. ( tubag lng sad ko na wala raman lingaw2x lang. wa lang pud cla. padayon ra me.)

haist mahadlok nlng noon ta mo shoot ane.

[hayden]

Dili man na fault sa mga men in uniform ang pag-implement sa restriction sa ilang establishment ky gisugo raman na sila, ang the way lang nila i-approach ang tao ky grabeh ra sila ka-hangin murag kinsa, kaning mga guardia murag battered child man ata ni sila pagkabata ky magpanilap if makasaba ug tao murag kinsa ultimo ra bya!

[dbgg1979]

I agree with waryu and hayden

1. If you shoot a private property, make sure you are shooting that property while standing on a public area. If its a government building like for example capitol. Ari ka sa dalan mo tira and wala na ma himo ang guard ana.

2. Mag anad nalang gyud ta nga hilas ang uban mga guards. The only friendly guards I see kay kanang naa sa Jollibee. Maski when I go deposit a check sa akong bank account the guards look at me as if mura kog kawatan maski nag sige nako balik2x. Dili man pud ko "preferred client" category sa kadto nga bank. Dili gyud mo smile. One time gi sapot ko akong gi ingnan ang guard sa BPI sa ayala nga smile pud bai. Mura man kag naa sa military check point, cliente baya ko ninyo. Naka dungog ang manager ug ni smile ra pud dala ka ulaw siguro to niya.

Ako question nimo wooden heart is. Give us details sa imong experience. Asa ni nga building. Asa man ka nag barog when you took the photo.

STREET PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT AN OFFENSE. Sakto man ni. But make sure the STREET IS NOT A PRIVATE PROPERTY. Kung diha ka sa sulod sa IT PARK. Pwede raka sitahon ana. Worst, pwede nila imbargohon imong camera, dad-on ka sa office ug ipa delete imong photos. Mas Worst case siguro if magpa gahi ka, mo file sila ug legal case against nimo. Kana, timing2x ra pud na. Pag Pre-nup session nako with my gf, now wife, nag kawat2x mi ug shoot diha sa IT park. Wala man pud mi na timingan ug sita. Pero naka remember ko sa una nag dala lang ko ug point and shoot camera ug nag lakaw ko sa IT park, I was just reviewing photos in my camera and gi inform na dayon ko sa guard nga dili pwede ang mag picture2x inside the IT park. Tarong ra pud nuon to pagka sulti sa guard and polite pud siya - A VERY RARE ONE.

Since street photography, mo fall ni imong photo under editorial photos. Cheap ang value ani kay wala man ka nag kuha ug permits sa imong gipang shootan like a model release.

[wooden_heart]

Dili man na fault sa mga men in uniform ang pag-implement sa restriction sa ilang establishment ky gisugo raman na sila, ang the way lang nila i-approach ang tao ky grabeh ra sila ka-hangin murag kinsa, kaning mga guardia murag battered child man ata ni sila pagkabata ky magpanilap if makasaba ug tao murag kinsa ultimo ra bya!

actually okay raman jud unta mo sita sila nato, but unta lang maka explain lang sila as to what rule in particular ang ato gi lapas. like sa kadtong ako gi-post na youtube link, officers sited what law ang ilang gi-basihan ngano ilang gi-badlong ang nag picture2x...

@ waryu... the thing is, i was shooting sa atbang sa ilang building sa pikas side sa kalsada, so dili dili jud to trespassing. maka lagot lang jud kaayu ni nga pang hitabo kay ma ulawan ta...

[dbgg1979]

then you have 2 options. mo sukol and fight for your rights as a photographer or walk away. dili mani bago nga problema bai. dugay naman ni. naa ra nimo unsay imong gi buhat after. ang mga photographer like the media people, maayo na kaayo mo pasikot2x ani. usa ka style nga akong na katonan from a friend, is ikaw ang mo una ug horat nila. but make sure you know what you are getting into. have all the details and facts needed. and mo daog gyud ka. if you're standing in public ground shooting a private area, padayon shoot. if they grab you, shoot dayon para naa ka proof gi koptan ka. take photographs of the people. better if you have video, then record everything and ipakita gyud nga gi shootan nimo ilang mga face ug names.

Ako, I just try to avoid mga ingon ana nga instance. I find other ways nga maka shoot ko and wala ang guards. Although if ma timingan sad ko, mo sukol gyud sad ko. Pero thank God wala pa gyud ko na timingan pud.

Don't get academic with the guards. Unsa ra man pud ilang na homan anang uban. Ayaw pakig sturya nila as if mura mo ug mga abogado naa sa court. Dili ingon ana pag deal sa mga guards. If you're in the streets, you got to learn the ways pud and getting academic talk with them is not the way.

actually okay raman jud unta mo sita sila nato, but unta lang maka explain lang sila as to what rule in particular ang ato gi lapas. like sa kadtong ako gi-post na youtube link, officers sited what law ang ilang gi-basihan ngano ilang gi-badlong ang nag picture2x...

@ waryu... the thing is, i was shooting sa atbang sa ilang building sa pikas side sa kalsada, so dili dili jud to trespassing. maka lagot lang jud kaayu ni nga pang hitabo kay ma ulawan ta...